Re: [Vo]:A catalytic converter might be a cold fusion cell

2019-05-01 Thread Jones Beene
 Hmmm... Actually, a few years ago there was indeed a flash of interest in 
doing this - using catalytic converters for thermal gain..
Many videos turned up on YouTube. Search for "H-cat"
Nothing was memorable from this extensive effort IIRC, but these efforts were 
generally using H2 instead of D2.
Jones



    Jed Rothwell wrote:  
 I have often noted that Pd thin film catalytic converters resemble cold fusion 
cells. Actually, for all anyone knows, they might be cold fusion cells. I have 
often suggested the someone should buy a brand new one, fill it with high 
pressure pure deuterium gas, and then heat it up. It might produce anomalous 
heat. I do not know what the honeycomb substrate in those gadgets is made of. 
If it has Ni in it, I'll bet it would produce heat.

If this works, it would resemble the way Fralick got heat from a conventional 
hydrogen purifier:

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FralickGCresultsofa.pdf

They cost around $1,200, in case you are in the market for one:

https://repairpal.com/estimator/catalytic-converter-replacement-cost

  

[Vo]:A catalytic converter might be a cold fusion cell

2019-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have often noted that Pd thin film catalytic converters resemble cold
fusion cells. Actually, for all anyone knows, they might *be* cold fusion
cells. I have often suggested the someone should buy a brand new one, fill
it with high pressure pure deuterium gas, and then heat it up. It might
produce anomalous heat. I do not know what the honeycomb substrate in those
gadgets is made of. If it has Ni in it, I'll bet it would produce heat.

If this works, it would resemble the way Fralick got heat from a
conventional hydrogen purifier:

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FralickGCresultsofa.pdf

They cost around $1,200, in case you are in the market for one:

https://repairpal.com/estimator/catalytic-converter-replacement-cost


Re: [Vo]:Thorium breeding now?

2019-05-01 Thread mixent
In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 1 May 2019 02:47:34
+:
Hi Bob,

Some points.

1) The fuel is dissolved in the water, so initially there is no fuel in the
reactor until water is added, then criticality is achieved at startup by pulling
control rods somewhat once the water (and fuel) has been added.
At this point, the negative temperature coefficient is already in effect.

2) If all the water were to rapidly evaporate, and leave a solid salt
(impossible by the way), the reactor would long have shut down because only fast
neutrons with a too small fission cross section would remain (i.e. no
moderator).
If the water were all to leak out, then the fuel would go with it leaving an
empty reactor. Leakage should probably be caught in a flat tray with an area
large enough to ensure that only a thin layer could exist even with all the
water from the reactor in it. The large area thin layer would ensure that too
many neutrons would be lost to sustain a chain reaction in the pan. This is a
passive safety measure.
Furthermore anything leaking into the pan under normal use could be pumped back
into the reactor ensuring that it could keep running normally even with a leak.

3) Because fission products are constantly being removed during operation
(liquid fuel cycle), there would be few left to produce decay heat, so a
melt-down could not happen.

4) If all external systems fail at once, and there is no leak, then the water
boils off (pressure release valve) and the reactor shuts down (no moderator). 

5) Another advantage of a liquid fuel reactor is that the total fuel load in the
reactor at any one time can be kept small, and fuel constantly added as
required. I.e. it doesn't need to have years worth of fuel in the reactor at all
times. This is another safety feature.

>Without water—lost in the steam production—the negative temperature coeff.  Is 
>diminished or lost completely.

...but while this is happening the reaction stops (loss of moderator).
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>The rate at which reactivity is added to the reactor is important in startup 
>to avoid super criticality and an uncontrolled –run-away—reaction.  Any 
>positive temperature coeff.  resulting in an increase in fast neutron flux is 
>unacceptable and needs to be avoided.   Loss of liquid water would be a 
>problem if it happened fast and added reactivity and loss of the negative 
>temperature coeff.
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>
>Bob Cook
[snip]
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success



Re: [Vo]:Longitudinal, scalar, spin and Seebeck waves.

2019-05-01 Thread Jones Beene
 It could be helpful to those working on longitudinal wave Seebeck or other 
similar devices to compile a listing of actual devices which convert ambient 
heat to electricity. What is the highest electrical output reported so far?

This listing would not include the MEMS devices which convert mechanical 
vibration, although at some point mechanical and thermal do merge.
Here is a start - from 2012 - the output is visible light from an LED

Self-Charged Graphene Battery Harvests Electricity from Thermal Energy of the 
Environment

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The energy of ionic thermal motion presents universally, which is as high as 4 
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 There is known phenomenon in physics called the "longitudinal spin Seebeck 
effect". The leading paper seems to be from Uchida :
 
 Observation of longitudinal spin-Seebeck effect in magnetic insulators   
  Appl. Phys. Lett. 97, 172505 (2010); 
 https://doi.org/10.1063/1.3507386

The carrier of spin for this effect is the magnon. There is pronounced heat 
transfer but no violation of the Laws of Thermodynamics.

This is not exactly the same thing as the so-called scalar wave, which is high 
on the bogosity index. Seehttps://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave
The lore in alternative energy going back to Tesla involves the scalar wave. 
Sometimes this wave can manifest as having a temperature gradient and has been 
called "cold electricity" but it is a mistake to conflate the two main 
concepts: the scalar wave and the longitudinal spin Seebeck effect - although 
there does seem to be plenty of overlap.

Then -- we start to bridge the gap between standard physics and crank free 
energy inventors with ANE. 

The "anomalous Nernst effect" (ANE) is a thermo-magnetic effect that describes 
the the interplay between heat, spin, and charge in magnets and coils. Compared 
to the standard Seebeck effect, the ANE reputedly has higher-efficiency, 
leading  to energy-harvesting devices which can convert ambient heat directly 
into electrical current in a longitudinal vector. In fact, ANE and LSSE are 
probably different aspects of the same phenomenon.

This post is intended simply to put these terms out there for future reference, 
since there are already devices out there which convert tiny amounts of ambient 
heat into tiny amounts of electrical current.
The big challenge - as always with any device rooted in QM, is quite simple. 
Does it SCALE-UP ?