[Vo]:FW: coherent system energy states

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Robin—

You raised the following questions and comments:



1) What is this "coherent system", and specifically, in what respect is it

coherent, i.e. which property of the system?

2) How do you propose that the nuclear energy is actually coupled to the phonic

energy?

3) Changes in angular momentum of nuclei are usually paired with emission of a

gamma ray or particle to conserve angular momentum. If you want to avoid this,

then you need to provide an actual physical mechanism by which the angular

momentum is transferred to the lattice, and specifically what it is in the

lattice that it couples to. Furthermore, what is it that makes this method

preferable above the usual methods (e.g. gamma emission)?

ANSWERS:


  1.  A  coherent system is adiabatic system of energy, including local packets 
of energy—electrons positrons and neutrinos---that are coupled by a EM field 
that responds very quickly (less than 10e-30mseconds) to energy additions or 
losses by changing the space relation of the energy packets.  A good example is 
a semi conductor crystal that absorbs an electron packet of energy and very 
quickly changes the allowable energy state of conduction  electrons.  There is 
no apparent delay associated with the allowed energy state across the 
macroscopic rang of the semi conductor.  Systems which harbor phonic energy are 
coherent systems, since the lattice acts as a whole without any time dely.

The energy of the coherent system is constrained by  small quanta of energy and 
angular momentum in accordance with Planck’s theory of quantized energy and 
quantized angular momentum.  In addition the coherent system will adjust the 
relative positions of energy packets to increase their relative motions 
(kinetic energies) and reduce their total potential energy increasing entropy 
per the second law of thermodynamics..


  1.  As noted above the coherent system is coupled by EM fields—primarily 
magnetic fields that connect electron orbital angular momentum with nuclear 
angular momentum, including energy packet intrinsic spin  angular momentum 
which  reflects the magnetic moment associated with those packets of energy.



  1.  There is no gamma emission within the coherent system—only instanteous 
changes of  angular momentum  and/or energy between between locations within 
the coherent system.  (Later in time adjacent coherent systems may conduct heat 
between them selves via radiant EM coupling or other coupling involving phonic 
energy changes of the original coherent system.  Too much phonic energy will 
destroy the lattice of the system in question.



Bob Cook

RE: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst

[JonesBeene]

Arnaud – yes, thanks for mentioning that there are a number of LENR papers 
where calcium and palladium show up together in a sandwich of sorts. 

Actually there are quite a few papers,  including many from Italian 
researchers. This opens up a curious situation. Typically… in the LENR specific 
papers there will be the unmistakable sign of nuclear activity such as 
transmutation and radioactivity. These are totally and completely absent from 
Mills work. (his IP depends on it)

Like Mills, Mizuno shows none of that proof of nuclear activity in this 
experiment -  yet both types show substantial excess heat.

And notably for Mizuno, as for Mills, nickel is by far the most available 
catalyst which may indicate several details which other have long believed to 
be true. 

These would include
1) Mills describes the early stages of a gainful reaction which does not  
eventually proceed further to show signs of nuclear activity.
2) LENR shows these signs if  the experiment continues for long enough and 
without a host matrix which inhibits full “shrinkage” of hydrogen
3) Densification of hydrogen will therefore proceed to a nuclear outcome unless 
the main host metal inhibits that outcome.
4) Palladium does not inhibit a nuclear outcome and in fact promotes it
5) The presence of nickel seems to inhibit  the progression of the reaction at 
a certain point - so that a nuclear outcome is avoided while anomalous heat is 
evident.
6) The inhibition of a nuclear outcome could relate to ferromagnetism in nickel 
! 
7) Mills entire body of IP is built around the lack of nuclear reaction – so he 
will almost always use mostly nickel to avoid the nuclear end result
8) The Mizuno breakthrough has ZERO mention of any nuclear outcome, and he uses 
mostly nickel 
9) Thus – connecting the dots - the Mizuno experiment is closer to Mills than 
it is to LENR and in fact illustrates the merger of the two technologies and 
the clear dividing line which is a ferromagnetic host. 

Therefore and in conclusion – one premise to consider in the “big picture” is 
that LENR and Hydrino-tech are different aspects of the same underlying 
dynamics.

Palladium is far more active than nickel but when most of the palladium has 
been switched over to nickel – the result will look more like a Mills 
experiment since the nickel has effectively stopped the progression of 
shrinkage – possibly at the 1/11 Rydberg level. Lots of excess heat with little 
of no other signs of nuclear activity.

Jones

From: Arnaud Kodeck

Jones,

Keep in mind that CacO3 decomposes to CaO in a dynamic vacuum with a 
temperature as low as 200°C. In the backing process in dynamic vacuum, the 
crystal CaCO3 in the mesh is decomposed to CaO.

CaO has been recognized as a catalyst of LENR by another team in Japan 
(Permeation of D2 in a layered Pd/CaO sandwich)

Arnaud
From: JonesBeene 

Thanks Jeff –

This could be important. Limelight – as old-fashioned as it may seem at first - 
has long been claimed to have a number of optical properties which look like 
they are related to hydrino creation.

On a related topic, and looking at Fig.3 in the first cited paper, which is the 
emission spectra of calcium sulfate, the peak is at 580 nm.

Coincidentally (or not) the palladium optical anomaly where the metal switches 
sharply from photon reflector to perfect absorber is at 590 nm. That would only 
be relevant if calcium carbonate has its peak at about the same value.

There are a number of reasons to think the Mizuno breakthrough relates more to 
Mills’ theory than to LENR.

Jones


From: Jeff Driscoll

and calcium oxide is a candoluminescent material where limelight is given off 
when hydrogen is exposed to the material at high temperature:

http://zhydrogen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Candoluminescence-of-cave-gypsum.pdf
  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXl6H7G6BMU  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limelight  

For those who have not carefully followed Mills' work on dense hydrogen 
(hydrino) - calcium is listed as a favored catalyst. This could be important 
(or not) in the context of the recent Mizuno breakthrough ... certainly it has 
not been mentioned before but perhaps it should be (at least listed as a 
possibility) due to a few other related details.

The Rydberg level for Ca is the fifth - 1/5 as it is inverted and notably 
calcium is the one of the few for this level of shrinkage. There is 
complementary catalysis with the other potential catalysts present, since there 
is palladium - first level, oxygen/carbonate ion - 2nd level, nickel 7th and 
11th and now calcium in the middle - so that there is a deepening progression 
which could set up a cascade of some kind.

If one is not tied down to any particular M.O. or theory - then this spread of 
catalysis values could be relevant in the context of Alan Goldwater's new 
report on his early stage effort at replication where he finds calcium:

RE: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst

[Arnaud Kodeck]

Jones,

 

Keep in mind that CacO3 decomposes to CaO in a dynamic vacuum with a 
temperature as low as 200°C. In the backing process in dynamic vacuum, the 
crystal CaCO3 in the mesh is decomposed to CaO.

 

CaO has been recognized as a catalyst of LENR by another team in Japan 
(Permeation of D2 in a layered Pd/CaO sandwich)

 

Arnaud

From: JonesBeene  
Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2019 04:44
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst

 

Thanks Jeff –

 

This could be important. Limelight – as old-fashioned as it may seem at first - 
has long been claimed to have a number of optical properties which look like 
they are related to hydrino creation.

 

On a related topic, and looking at Fig.3 in the first cited paper, which is the 
emission spectra of calcium sulfate, the peak is at 580 nm.

 

Coincidentally (or not) the palladium optical anomaly where the metal switches 
sharply from photon reflector to perfect absorber is at 590 nm. That would only 
be relevant if calcium carbonate has its peak at about the same value.

 

There are a number of reasons to think the Mizuno breakthrough relates more to 
Mills’ theory than to LENR.

 

Jones

 

 

From: Jeff Driscoll  

 

and calcium oxide is a candoluminescent material where limelight is given off 
when hydrogen is exposed to the material at high temperature:

 

http://zhydrogen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Candoluminescence-of-cave-gypsum.pdf
  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXl6H7G6BMU  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limelight  

 

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:26 PM Jones Beene mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> > wrote:

For those who have not carefully followed Mills' work on dense hydrogen 
(hydrino) - calcium is listed as a favored catalyst. This could be important 
(or not) in the context of the recent Mizuno breakthrough ... certainly it has 
not been mentioned before but perhaps it should be (at least listed as a 
possibility) due to a few other related details.

 

The Rydberg level for Ca is the fifth - 1/5 as it is inverted and notably 
calcium is the one of the few for this level of shrinkage. There is 
complementary catalysis with the other potential catalysts present, since there 
is palladium - first level, oxygen/carbonate ion - 2nd level, nickel 7th and 
11th and now calcium in the middle - so that there is a deepening progression 
which could set up a cascade of some kind.

 

If one is not tied down to any particular M.O. or theory - then this spread of 
catalysis values could be relevant in the context of Alan Goldwater's new 
report on his early stage effort at replication where he finds calcium:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16dP_SmSP8SuQbZ7p9eGoCwf1vwJKh7KPL7NAYv7j13o/edit

 

Really nice insight by Alan.

 




 

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Jeff Driscoll
617-290-1998