Re: [Vo]:The Solution is in Your Bar?

2020-04-25 Thread Jonathan Berry
I've been eating carnivore recently, and it's been very good for me, but I
wanted some chicken curry last night and curry spices is one of the few
exceptions I will make for non-animal based foods.

Anyway when I was eating the Tumeric heavy curry I began to cough up some
phlegm I didn't know was down there.
I figured this could be from smoke from fires...
But today I noticed I had the slightest tickle in my throat, and so did my
house guest.

Ugh, so I've taken some thieves oil, some colloidal silver, some chlorine
dioxide, a teaspoon of capers and later I'll take some vitamin C.
My pulse oximeter hasn't arrived yet, not sure it would have even been
advanced enough for low oxygen levels to show up if it was Covid, but I
very seldom come down with anything at least to a notable degree.

More COVID details...

Turns out COVID infects the cells in your lung that produce surfactant,
these surfactants help keep pockets of air open in your lungs.
Well, they give premature babies Surfactant, but currently they don't do it
for COVID though there are trials.
But, lying prone and a nasal canular helps keep these air pockets open:
https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/fmlitp/are_we_treating_covid19_the_wrong_way_a_deep_dive/?utm_source=share_medium=ios_app_name=iossmf


So I'll be sleeping on my stomach tonight.


On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 13:17, Jones Beene  wrote:

> Here is more info suggesting curcumin is effective
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> https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-22057/v1
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> One would be wise to keep a supply near the booze cabinet and wash a cap
> or two down with your elixir of choice ...
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> Terry Blanton wrote:
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> Everclear in my brandy snifter!
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>  ChemE Stewart  wrote:
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> https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.12444
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Re: [Vo]:The Solution is in Your Bar?

2020-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
 Here is more info suggesting curcumin is effective
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-22057/v1
One would be wise to keep a supply near the booze cabinet and wash a cap or two 
down with your elixir of choice ...




Terry Blanton wrote:  
 
 Everclear in my brandy snifter!  

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 ChemE Stewart  wrote:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.12444


  

Re: [Vo]:The Solution is in Your Bar?

2020-04-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Everclear in my brandy snifter!


Virus-free.
www.avast.com

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:35 PM ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.12444
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Re: [Vo]:The Solution is in Your Bar?

2020-04-25 Thread Jonathan Berry
https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/fmlitp/are_we_treating_covid19_the_wrong_way_a_deep_dive/


On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 11:58, Jonathan Berry 
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> Hmmm, disinfecting the lungs, who would have thought of it :)
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> Maybe those with TDS can at least take solace it's being inhaled not
> injected.
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> On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 11:35, ChemE Stewart  wrote:
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>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.12444
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Re: [Vo]:The Solution is in Your Bar?

2020-04-25 Thread Jonathan Berry
Hmmm, disinfecting the lungs, who would have thought of it :)

Maybe those with TDS can at least take solace it's being inhaled not
injected.

On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 11:35, ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.12444
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Re: [Vo]:The Solution is in Your Bar?

2020-04-25 Thread ChemE Stewart
https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.12444


Re: [Vo]:More on UVC & Covid

2020-04-25 Thread H LV
It should be first tested in hospitals and long term care homes.

Harry

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:40 AM Jonathan Berry 
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> This needs public pressure behind it!
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> Makes a LOT more sense than shutting everything down, might take a little
> while to ramp up production but this should be top priority!
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> Please, pass this on to people!
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> On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 16:03, Ron Wormus  wrote:
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>> Source:
>> https://news.columbia.edu/ultraviolet-technology-virus-covid-19-UV-light#/
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>> *Could a New Ultraviolet Technology Fight the Spread of Coronavirus?*
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>> Columbia researcher David Brenner believes far-UVC light—safe for humans,
>> but lethal for viruses— could be a ‘game changer.’
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>> By Carla Cantor
>> April 21, 2020
>> Image:
>> https://news.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/styles/cu_crop/public/content/airport-ultraviolet-lamp-covid-large.jpg?itok=aJpNEIFJ
>>  The researchers say far-UVC lighting could be deployed in hospitals,
>> schools, airplanes, airports and other transportation hubs —anywhere where
>> people congregate.
>> Photo: Columbia Center for Radiological Research
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>> A technique that zaps airborne viruses with a narrow-wavelength band of
>> UV light shows promise for curtailing the person-to-person spread of
>> COVID-19 in indoor public places.
>>
>> The technology, developed by Columbia University's Center for
>> Radiological Research (https://www.crr.columbia.edu/), uses lamps that
>> emit continuous, low doses of a particular wavelength of ultraviolent
>> light, known as far-UVC, which can kill viruses and bacteria without
>> harming human skin, eyes and other tissues, as is the problem with
>> conventional UV light.
>>
>> “Far-UVC light has the potential to be a ‘game changer,’” said David
>> Brenner, professor of radiation biophysics and director of the center. “It
>> can be safely used in occupied public spaces, and it kills pathogens in the
>> air before we can breathe them in.”
>>
>> The research team’s experiments have shown far-UVC effective in
>> eradicating two types of airborne seasonal coronaviruses (the ones that
>> cause coughs and colds). The researchers are now testing the light against
>> the SARS-CoV-2 virus at Columbia in a biosafety laboratory, with
>> encouraging results, Brenner said.
>>
>> The team previously found the method effective in inactivating the
>> airborne H1N1 influenza virus, as well as drug-resistant bacteria. And
>> multiple, long-term studies on animals and humans have confirmed that
>> exposure to far-UVC does not cause damage to the skin or eyes.
>>
>> "Our system is a low-cost, safe solution to eradicating airborne viruses
>> minutes after they've been breathed, coughed or sneezed into the air."
>>
>>
>>
>> If widely used in occupied public places, far-UVC technology has the
>> potential to provide a powerful check on future epidemics and pandemics,
>> Brenner said. He added that even when researchers develop a vaccine against
>> the virus that causes COVID, it will not protect against the next novel
>> virus.
>>
>> “Our system is a low-cost, safe solution to eradicating airborne viruses
>> minutes after they've been breathed, coughed or sneezed into the air,”
>> Brenner said. “Not only does it have the potential to prevent the global
>> spread of the virus that causes COVID-19, but also future novel viruses, as
>> well as more familiar viruses like influenza and measles.”
>>
>> Brenner envisions the use of safe overhead far-UVC lamps in a wide range
>> of indoor public spaces. The technology, which can be easily retrofitted
>> into existing light fixtures, he said, could be deployed in hospitals and
>> doctors’ offices as well as schools, shelters, airports, airplanes and
>> other transportation hubs.
>>
>> Scientists have known for decades that broad-spectrum, germicidal UV
>> light has the capacity to kill microbes. Hospitals and laboratories often
>> use UV light to sterilize tools and other equipment. But conventional
>> ultraviolet light is highly penetrating and can cause skin cancer and eye
>> problems.
>>
>> In contrast, far-UVC, which has a very short wavelength, cannot reach or
>> damage living human cells. But the narrow band wavelength can still
>> penetrate and kill very small viruses and bacteria floating in the air or
>> on surfaces.
>>
>> Far-UVC lamps are now in production by several companies, although
>> ramping up to large-scale production, as well as approval by the Food and
>> Drug Administration and Environmental Protection Agency, will take several
>> months. At between $500 and $1000 per lamp, the lamps are relatively
>> inexpensive, and once they are mass produced the prices would likely fall,
>> Brenner said.
>>
>> “Far-UVC takes a fundamentally different tactic in the war against
>> COVID-19,” Brenner said. “Most approaches focus on fighting the virus once
>> it has gotten into the body. Far-UVC is one of the very few approaches that
>> has the potential to prevent the spread of viruses before they