Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Jones Beene
Frank Are you saying that Steorn was not a scam ? Frank Grimer wrote: By removing the oscillation he removed the very thing that was causing the Steorn effect I seem to remember. Terry Blanton wrote: We called it the "Little Effect".  Devices never worked around Scott Little (or his

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Frank Grimer
By removing the oscillation he removed the very thing that was causing the Steorn effect I seem to remember. On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 19:52, Terry Blanton wrote: > We called it the "Little Effect". Devices never worked around Scott > Little (or his daughter?) > > Kinda the opposite of the

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Jones Beene
Bob Higgins wrote: [snip] The trick is finding the (plus) in Storms' Ni(plus) material.  Anything I find that is interesting will also be tested in MOAC. I will ask Brian Ahern if he has available any left-over nano-nickel (plus Pd) to donate to the cause. This is the same spin-cast  material

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Terry Blanton
We called it the "Little Effect". Devices never worked around Scott Little (or his daughter?) Kinda the opposite of the "Hutchison Effect". :)

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Bob Higgins
Actually, as far as I know, Hal Puthoff was not involved in the measurement. The Griggs test was done by well-grounded engineers. This was the same team responsible for development of the MOAC calorimeter. When I heard how they measured the actual mechanical power going into the pump, I was

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Bob Higgins
Sorry, Jones; I only got the MOAC. Earthtech's facilities were in the final stages of being cleared out when I got it (and it was a whole trailer full of stuff). I was sad to learn that Earthtech had closed. I can ask what happened to the Mills gas phase experiment. The MOAC was configured to

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Bob This is great news. Did you by any chance also get hold of the reactor apparatus that they built to replicate the Randell Mills gas phase experiment? That was a long time ago and it may have disappeared. As I recall this kind of experiment could have changed the entire landscape of

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Frank Grimer
I wouldn't worry too much about Puthoff Puthoff took an interest in the Church of Scientology in the late 1960s and reached what was then the top OT VII level by 1971.[3]

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Frank Grimer
I believe it does. See the following article in Infinite Energy magazine. Grimer, Frank J. Aether Vacua and Cold Fusion, 2002, 8, 46, 28 I also think that Cold Fusion and the Griggs effect are connected as will be clear from the article. Mind you. I can well understand poor Griggs not wanting to

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Bob Higgins
Hi Jones, I now have Earthtech's MOAC (calorimeter) in my lab and I am refurbishing and re-commissioning it. Earthtech is now closed and they are emptying their building. The Griggs device was not tested in the MOAC calorimeter. I spoke with the engineers who built MOAC and who also tested the

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Jones Beene
Bob Higgins wrote: BTW, I was told that Earthtech testing of the Griggs device did NOT show excess heat.  The testing process was described to me. Hey Bob - that null result does not surprise me but is it really meaningful? Earthtech has a precision calorimeter which can accommodate small

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Bob Higgins
BTW, I was told that Earthtech testing of the Griggs device did NOT show excess heat. The testing process was described to me. Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Frank, I had not seen your Russian reference about the Potapov device. (which needs a bit of editing, probably due to poor translation) This brings ti mind one curious detail in the Griggs/Potapov results - as well as some Casimir force, magnetic motor, Maxwell's demon, and even a few LENR

Re: [Vo]:What is meant by vortex here?

2021-08-06 Thread Frank Grimer
https://remontideas.ru/en/warm-floor/vechnyi-dvigatel-potapova-generator-svobodnoi-energii-s-samozapitkoi.html A bit of history. On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 at 14:16, Jones Beene wrote: > David Jonsson wrote: > > > Hi > > The concept vortex seems to be used in different ways. > > How is it used on this