This is better than a weekly soap-opera!
Stay tuned for next week's exciting episode where we'll all learn who's
sleeping with who, and who the double-agent is!
:-)
-mark
DGT wrote:
We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing.
and
We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special instruments
designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion.
I feel a lawsuit coming on!
-mark
From one narcissist to another...
Seems ol Joe thinks he's converted the lot of us...
http://www.theeestory.com/users/1681/posts#
80kgs of metal can easily store over 40MJ. It's not on the level of a
discussion. My arguments have been extremely convincing as I think you can
tell by the
Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is
irrefutable proof
From one narcissist to another...
Seems ol Joe thinks he's converted the lot of us...
http
Attention all in the Vort collective:
I hope you all don't mind if I take a few bytes of bandwidth to request some
help with the RD I've been working on... which is noninvasive blood glucose
measurement using RF/microwaves. The attached pic shows the results for
just one of the diabetics tested;
Alan:
Thx for doing the calcs...
I too saw the TC lead wires going under the black tape which is on the fitting
where they push on the flexible hose. However, if you look closely, the lead
wires continue for at least another 2 inches after the black tape, so I think
the actual TC was mounted
Thx for posting that pic...
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 1:33 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting
Mark,
In the video Rossi points to the spot. Attached is a clip showing
When you zoom in on the end of the sensor lead wire, where the frayed
insulation is, you clearly see the bare metal thermocouple wires.
And from the length of that section of lead wire (~1.5 to 2 inches), the
most likely location for the actual TC was on one of the flat surfaces on
the shiny steel
The Tout thermocouple being within an inch or two of the hot steam flow into
the heat exchanger does not sit well w/me...
From watching Lewan's video again, the external heat exchanger (XHX) was
operated in counter-current flow, where the steam from the primary circuit
flowed opposite to the
Couldn't it be the simple explanation in that he's simply running the PWM
controller at a very low duty cycle?
As part of the teardown at the end, did they open up the blue control box?
It wasn't mentioned anywhere that I've read so far.
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Jeff Driscoll wrote:
Could it have been under the influence of an electic heater nearby?
To which Jed wrote:
There is no electric heater nearby. It could be influenced by the outlet
from the condensed steam water, but I doubt it for the following reasons: It
was far from that spot; that
As far as I'm aware, there were no measurements taken at the primary circuit's
exiting the heat exchanger (the steam condensate)... at least not during the
warming up period and self-sustain period. In Mats Lewan's report he did
measure the condensate coming out but it was well after the
The four thermocouples that I am aware of are:
Tin : Secondary circuit INPUT to external heat exchanger
Tout: Secondary circuit OUTPUT from external heat exchanger
T2 : Primary circuit OUTPUT (steam), thermocouple inserted
INSIDE E-Cat)
T3 :
Horace wrote:
Yet a higher than 100°C reading was present for the thermometer inside the
E-cat. That indicates a good possibility that this high reading is merely a
systematic false reading.
Horace,
The T2 thermometer (inside the E-Cat) started out at nearly the same temp as
the peristaltic pump
Thanks for posting those pics, Enzo...
Like I said yesterday at about this same time...
The Tout thermocouple being within an inch or two of the hot
steam flow into the heat exchanger does not sit well w/me...
Looks like the thermocouple was Less than 2 from the steam-half of the
exchanger
Lewan stated in his report:
The Thursday test took place on the same premises as the previous tests.
I've just been asking myself, Is there anything learned from this test that
could help analyze previous tests?.
This test gives us some idea of the consistency of the temperature and
flow-rate
Sure, it all makes sense... now we know what keeps plugging up the E-Cats!
Ever give Ex-Lax to a kitty?
-m
-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]
Rest to Active metabolism is 8X
OK .. to allow breathing room ... take 461/8 = 57 liters.
COULD be mouse-powered
! (Well,
not all the time, anyway!)
:)
Joe
On 4 Oct 2011, at 08:41, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
Hi Dr. K,
Yes, I'm sure Dr. Mills will object...
*IF* he ever bothered to read this bunch of loomies!
Oh, and that's loomies, as in, 'Luminaries'! :-)
-Mark
-Original Message
I think he ought to run it for a few hours and then put it in self-sustain
mode, which I assume means no power to the internal resistance heater(s), and
then let’s HOPE that it becomes unstable and goes critical!
I say, let it melt-down…
With no input power, and coolant flowing, there is
I hope the attached picture comes thru...
And I'd need to know more about exactly how the pic was made, but this is
most certainly in line with my 'vision' as to what is going on... but then
again, there are 100 ways to skin a cat!
-Mark
attachment: AtomicStrobe-light_01.jpg
In response to Robin's comment below...
You can find 100 people who will tell you something can't be done, for every
one that at least will try!
Scientists currently hold various physical objects (including atoms) in
place using strong electric or magnetic fields, or even light. So I think
it
Robin,
Thanks for providing various feedback...
In your response below, you state,
This happens at twice the Bohr radius, which is thus the maximum
separation distance between electron and proton. In short the chance
that the electron will be found beyond this is zero (unless it
acquires energy
Hi Dr. K,
Yes, I'm sure Dr. Mills will object...
*IF* he ever bothered to read this bunch of loomies!
Oh, and that's loomies, as in, 'Luminaries'! :-)
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Dr Josef Karthauser [mailto:j...@tao.org.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:01 PM
To:
Jed wrote regarding the e-Cat:
It often leaks or plugs up.
Scuze me? I can understand the leaking, but plugging up??? How does water
flowing thru a pipe get plugged???
There must be more to the internals than just the reactor core and the
internal volume of the pipe!
Do they have a flow
Good point Terry... I'm still laughin'!
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
I'm not sure of the gum chewer reference; but, I think it refers to
those blondes that I used to hook up with in college from the Massey
Fashion College . . . Not a lot
Steven:
I share most of your thoughts on Krivit as well... I've had a fair amount of
interaction w/SK due to reviewing articles and general debates/discussions with
him, and he has always been open-minded about suggestions, and even made some
corrections or taken advice on difficult
Kyle,
Enjoyed your rant! Thx.
RE: the 'god' particle being really hard to find...
Makes me wonder if the (unconscious?) motivation for its existence came out
of a realization by the physics powerbrokers that they needed a reason to
justify an even larger research budget. Let's hypothesize a new
]: Another advancement toward an atomic 'strobe-light'...
On 23 Sep 2011, at 02:33, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
According to my model, I would be willing to bet that one would see the
electron move thru the nucleus with every oscillation… but it traverses the
center region
clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than
light
I stand corrected.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.4897
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
I've been looking around at the CERN website and cannot find any mention
of
the experiment... so far
There once was a plumber from Leigh,
Who was plumbing his maid by the sea...
Oh, wait... that's the wrong limerick.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 3:05 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks
If this whole thing is a scam, AND the below info is true, then this just
doesn't make sense...
Rossi's Home Sacrificed for Cold Fusion E-Cat Launch - Only several days
ago, Andrea Rossi stated on his blog that he had big financial problems. Now
he has revealed that these problems are resolved.
Some other science news of interest...
Slow neutrons are dense
http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.107.134801
And this one involving Rydberg states...
Excited atoms spin out of equilibrium
http://physics.aps.org/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevA.84.031402.pdf
What makes the setting
My understanding of that postulate of relativity was nothing with mass
could attain or exceed C. Because, as the speed of the object approaches C,
inertial mass approaches infinity, attaining infinity when v=C, and infinite
mass is assumed to be impossible. Is the neutrino's extremely small
Where the heck did you read the word atmosphere??? The reporter really
screwed that story up...
...which provided the particle accelerator that sent neutrinos on their
breakneck 454-mile trip UNDERGROUND from Geneva to Italy.
Underground, not thru the air!
-mark
-Original Message-
Horace,
I think Lewan's thinking is the following:
- the system is more or less at steady-state
- the flow into the T-tube (let's call it 'outlet_overflow') was (more or
less) constant,
- the liquid water coming out the end of the HOSE was then:
Outlet_overflow + condensation_in_the_hose
Now this is, IMHO, one of the most significant science stories all year
Over the decades of reading about scientific results, Ive been building up
a qualitative model of atoms and what makes up an atom
in a physical
sense. For the last decade Ive been saying that **IF** you could build a
One group at CERN has built a very novel cloud chamber to study the
nucleation process which is responsible for cloud formation. one of there
discoveries is the following:
CLOUD has already made several important discoveries. First, the experiment
has shown that the most likely nucleating
I've been looking around at the CERN website and cannot find any mention of
the experiment... so far.
Can you friend provide us with the Abstract of the publication where he
claims it specifically says the neutrino beam traveled thru the atmosphere?
The Yahoo.com article from your link says
Latest from Thane:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_wleUlcMK0
The Theory of Conservation of Energy states that:
Energy cannot be created
This theory is false as is shown in this video by employing the Work-Energy
Principle.
The Work-Energy Principle basically states that in
]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:58 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo
Pulses cause significant skin effect because their Fourier components
consist of high frequency harmonics.
- Original Message -
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint mailto:zeropo
Horace:
The first thing I thought of when Joe used the word dribble was that he
had not seen the video where they opened the water inlet valve on the bottom
and a VERY strong stream of liquid water and steam came out! To refer to
that as a dribble, is clearly the wrong adjective... forceful
Alan wrote:
We can't see inside the tap (or know what type it is), or if it's only
partly open.
By the looks of the orange handle on the valve, I'd say that this is the
type of valve that uses only a 90degree turn of the handle to go from full
shut to full open (ball valve). When the handle
From: Robert Leguillon [mailto:robert.leguil...@hotmail.com]
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo
[deleted]
Thus the original question set:
Q1) Does this uneven current flow (skin effect) translate to potentially
uneven heating - even at equilibrium**?
[deleted]
R.L.
You must take a look at the animation on right side of page, about half way
down.
The caption reads:
Slow-motion replay of valence electron motion. Time has been magnified by
a factor of approximately 10^15 in this sub-atomic-resolution time
microscope to make this intra-atomic dance perceivable
I'm allergic to peanuts...
:-(
-Mark
-Original Message-
From Horace:
Just to avoid miscommunication, I just realized that I should note that the
above refers to vortex-l as a peanut gallery with respect to the Rossi
extravaganza.
Being a staunch card carrying vortex-l member myself,
Jones, you're such a teez! :-)
-M
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Horace
Too bad the money that went into Solyndra didn't go into nano-
capacitors. Energy storage is the key stumbling block now for
EVs and renewable energy projects.
I predict
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Hey guys - isn't Rossi-mania already reading like a geek gossip column?
You mean a greek geek gossip column!
-M
JC stated:
(and note that this takes considerable time in the ramp up)
Where he is referring to the long time it takes to ramp up the E-Cat's
internal temperature on startup.
Mr. Catania, do you realize that the electrical power into the E-Cat's
resistance heater was NOT started at 100%, it
FYI:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-09-nanomaterial-hydrogen-storage.html
Scientists at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute are working to optimize a
promising new nanomaterial called nanoblades for use in hydrogen storage.
During their testing of the new material, they have discovered that it can
Just an FYI... this from a Paris newspaper, 9/10.
-Mark
===
FIFTEEN years ago Vincent Bolloré, a French industrialist, decided to get
into the business of electricity storage. He started a project to produce
rechargeable batteries in two small rooms of his family mansion in
Didn’t they change the location to Cypress? Or was that just rumor? I tend to
gloss over the non-technical details.
-mark
From: Charles Hope [mailto:lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 1:42 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Greek press report:
Another possible reason for this 'news' about Defkalion is the following:
The people behind Defkalion never had the money (personally) to do all they
claimed they would do when they signed the agreement with Rossi, however,
they felt they could easily get enough investors interested, so they set
not applied for license
or safety testing
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Didnt they change the location to Cypress? Or was that just rumor? I
tend
to gloss over the non-technical details.
Defkalion Green Technologies is actually a Cypress based
Joe Catania [mailto:zrosumg...@aol.com] wrote:
I'm not sanguine on any of the theories popularized
so far like Widom-Larsen, Rossi's theories, Piantelli's,
BEC, etc. They've all been discredited.
'Discredited' how???
Please don't say, Because they contradict current theories...
Are there any
Joe:
Water flow is most certainly pertinent to any energy calculations concerning
the E-Cat. Your statement that we aren't discussing water flow seems to
indicate that either we are talking about two completely different
calculations or you have no idea what you're talking about. All
: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:00 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Corrections to heat after death calculations
Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
Compare the heat capacity of any metal with water and you will see that
water can store 100
Perhaps someone can provide specific reference to a statement by one of the
participants in the E-Cat demos that the water flow was maintained during
the heat-after-death tests.
Joe Catania:
Your post below is what you should have started with:
1) It contains a detailed explanation of
This excerpt from PhysOrg.com..
My money is on the possibility that they won't find it, and with other
developments like LENR, the high-energy physics community will need to
rethink their precious theories! The Paradigms are a Changin'.
-Mark
==
Just last month, physicists
PhysOrg excerpt below, paper is here: http://arxiv.org/abs/1107.2304v1
An incredibly rare sub-atomic particle decay might not be quite as rare as
previously predicted, say Cornell researchers. This discovery, culled from a
vast data set at the Collider Detector at Fermilab (CDF), is a clue
The Rossi E-Cat finally made it into a (major?) news media here in the U.S.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/17/nuclear-future-beyond-japan/
-M
9:26 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Rossi covered by Washingtom Times here in the U.S.
The article is dated March 17.
Craig
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 09:19 -0700, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
The Rossi E-Cat finally made it into a (major?) news media here in the U.S.
http
He may not have a white lab coat, but he probably has a straight jacket or
two lying around! :-)
-M
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate
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