Harry Veeder wrote:
On 28/10/2007 9:15 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
On 28/10/2007 11:41 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Speed is not power. Power is speed times force.
Torque is not power. Power is rotational velocity times torque.
A simple lever can produce more
Jones Beene wrote:
I am really surprised that all of the RF-expertise here on Vo seems to
be fixated on capacitive coupling when the initial photo on that page
shows a battery driven isolated circuit with its own signal, where
capacitive coupling is impossible.
The circuit under discussion
Jones Beene wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
The circuit under discussion was the one with a single ground wire
attached and no input. It is based on the circuit shown in video #7.
It is described farther down on that page.
The one with a battery is yet something else again
Jones Beene wrote:
Part 8 is now up on YouTube to answer the objection that the aluminum
pan itself was somehow involved. There is still one wire to the signal
generator - no ground, no fakery.
If we're back to a SIGNAL wire running to the SIGNAL GENERATOR, then I
guess we can say for sure
Jones: Thank you for a very clear recap of the situation, and for the
clear statements with regard to the signal generator.
The confusion over whether the signal generator was turned on or turned
off was maddening. With your statements here, at last we have a stake
in the ground. (Whether
WHOA Horace -- Slow down! It doesn't say quite what you think!
Let's take it word by word.
Horace Heffner wrote:
On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:15 PM, DDMasters wrote:
Maybe you should read his web pages, he does say no generator is used
in his
#7 free standing unit. It is in plain English.
OrionWorks wrote:
Is there a Vort deity-on-call that can point me to specific Calculus
formulas that one would use to plot PRECISELY the predicted (x,y)
positions on a 2D graph based on the time slice given?
Does such devils in the guise of Calculus exist?
I don't know a closed form
Jones Beene wrote:
You guys must be asleep at the wheel ;-)
Did no one even make an effort to view the preview teaser image which
DrS posted to Hartmann's site?
... or do you require spoon-feeding?
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3457.0;attach=13950;image
Jones Beene wrote:
Stephen
*Nothing* has been announced. I invite you to use your imagination.
He has no intention, nor obligation, to spell out details for you or
anyone else until there is absolute certainty; and at that time he
almost certainly will make the announcement elsewhere, due
Harry Veeder wrote:
On 29/10/2007 11:06 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Momentum, close relative of kinetic energy, can't be bottled and so
can't be sold. The kind of energy that is sold is all potential, not
kinetic, because motion can't be packaged.
Kinetic energy is not a relative
Jones Beene wrote:
To: Vortex Members On 11/1/2007
From: Dr. Ronald R. Stiffler
[ ... ]
I am so against a Litigious Society, yet often it has a side that is the
only way to receive redress in cases such as this.
The same people that advise me on the legality of my work are most
Jones Beene wrote:
Stephen,
I don't know where you come from, but in Texas (so I have been told) if
you call someone a con man you better hope that you are a better shot
than he is...
You didn't answer the question, Jones. Your response amounts to saying
insulting someone will make them
to anyone here.
You, however, have continued to be heavily involved in this group and
have chosen to act as Ron's spokesman. I think YOU owe us a clear,
unambiguous answer to the above question, framed in a complete sentence,
without weasel words.
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Jones Beene wrote
Esa Ruoho wrote:
its funny, i read that mail of his and saw nothing at all about suing
anyone on vortex-list.
I pick nits for a living; sometimes the habit carries over to other places.
i think we live in different worlds. try and switch yours around to a
more rosy one, see how things go.
Jones Beene wrote:
No! you are squirming to dodge the question of- did someone
intentionally insult the guy needlessly.
Well, maybe we did. Picking nits is best done with a nit comb, which is
a smooth comb with rounded points on the tines. Sometimes the
temptation to use a knife, a
Terry, if you're doing a repro of any of Ron's circuits, I have a
suggested power measurement. This is a pretty obvious suggestion, I
think, and you're probably already 'way past this level, but none the
less if you should check this, I'd be interested in hearing the results.
(You may
Craig Haynie wrote:
I am not a scientist and don't have any of this equipment, but this
gentleman seems to have replicated the Stiffler effect with ONLY a
function generator, LEDs, and a ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN-WGgUkOvY
He discusses it here, starting on message 367
Jones Beene wrote:
--- Charlie,
At the risk of offending more readers here with
excessive speculation, let me mention that the
Stiffler circuit mentioned in recent threads, could be
very similar to your and Paul's concept- but in a
number of inadvertent ways. That is, similar to what
you are
Jones Beene wrote:
Frederick Sparber has written about the curious phenomenon of enhanced
radioactivity (beta decay mostly):
The Barker patent (US 5,076,971 ) and other's claim that an enhanced
change in the decay rate of radioisopes in minerals occurs when they are
kept inside a chamber
energy unless it can trigger a nuclear decay.
Jones
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
Frederick Sparber has written about the curious phenomenon of
enhanced radioactivity (beta decay mostly):
The Barker patent (US 5,076,971 ) and other's claim that an enhanced
change in the decay
OrionWorks wrote:
Jed sez:
Georgia is suffering from the worst drought in recorded
history. Gov. Sonny Perdue of Georgia along with various
religious and political leaders prayed for rain this
afternoon at the state capital. A small number of atheists
and people who oppose mixing church and
.)
Michel
- Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November
14, 2007 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: diode array in photodiode
array
Michel Jullian wrote:
Hi Charlie,
It certainly will if you cool it, otherwise it should
Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/nefresponse.html
The first half of this seems to be an attack on Steve Krivit's methods,
and by the time I was halfway down the page I was tired of reading how
outraged they were. I just skimmed the rest of it.
Do they
This is another post in which the input power is mentioned, but no
estimate of the output power is given.
The magician waves his hand and says, Look how fast that thing over
there is spinning! and you're not supposed to notice that he never says
anything meaningful about engine output.
For
Thanks for the clarification.
I see that you were considering using Schottky diodes (SMS7621's) --
seems like a good idea for this; if it works at all, it'll surely be
with diodes with a low forward drop.
Do you know what the forward drop for the photocells in the array is?
My immediate
You want to address my comments? Great!
Tell me -- and Vortex -- the output power of the engine. That's what
I'm asking. In fact, that's really ALL I'm asking.
If it's OU -- if it's doing that which is not possible, in your words
-- what's the shaft horsepower with 20 watts of input
You've responded again, once again off-list, and once again you have not
stated:
-- what torque your engine applies to the shaft at 100 RPM
-- what the output power is
-- how much water is being pumped, up how much rise
Please state the output power, clearly, as shaft horsepower. Stop
haven't stated it.
What is the output power?
(Why do you put question in quotes?)
[OOPS -- here comes the playground tactic!
It's time to play I-dare-you!]
I challenge you (Stephen A. Lawrence)
Don't be silly. The question is what the output power is.
You certainly know it, so state
.
Once again:
*Let's cut to the chase. I challenge you (Stephen A. Lawrence) to come
to Mobile and I will match my $10,000 to your $10,000 to see if you can
bring a CONVENTIONAL MOTOR to my facility and turn a 1,265-lb rotary at
100 rpms and power that 375-lb positive displacement pump and pump
Horace Heffner wrote:
On Nov 14, 2007, at 7:22 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
JNP replies again! And once again they do not provide power
numbers.
In fact they no longer even mention the question of output power in
their response, and snipped all mention of it from my message
OrionWorks wrote:
Harry is having some problems posting to Vortex. Hope this helps.
On 11/15/07, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At the moment I can't seem to post to vortex...could you forward this
to
vortex for me?
thanks, Harry
Since the water pump needs 10 HP to _operate_, and the
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
The pump is specified by its manufacturer to require drive from a 10
HP engine in order to achieve its rated performance.
Actually, if the manufacture's specifications call for a 10 hp engine,
that means anything bigger will wreck the pump
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
The pump is specified by its manufacturer to require drive from a 10
HP engine in order to achieve its rated performance.
Actually, if the manufacture's specifications call for a 10 hp engine,
that means anything
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Marianne Macy wrote a response to Steve Krivit, here:
http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/macyresponse.html
I have to say I found Macy's response both lucid and convincing; she
covered the salient points in Steve Krivit's article, and covered them
very well.
I
Jed Rothwell wrote:
If they did draw up a blueprint it was for convenience only, to save a
few months of work by corporate finance and legal wonks. All businessmen
always collude, when they can get away with it. They do that is
naturally, the way birds fly and fish swim. You can clip the
Jones Beene wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saw this on another list:
Remember cold electricity? Just hours ago, all the videos for Dr.
Ronald Stiffler's Cold Electricity demonstrations were removed
from YouTube. His web site is now taken down as well
Not the MIB this time ;-)
Apparently
For your entertainment on this holiday weekend, here's a water heater,
which you can buy today, which is about a factor of five over unity.
And it is not a heat pump -- that's true 5x OU, _not_ just
garden-variety COP=5.
Well, that's what they claim, anyway. They're selling the things for
Nick Palmer wrote:
http://www.neweconomics.org/gen/
This organisation actually works on new economic models that include the
environmental and social costs of economies onto the bottom line of
the balance sheet. That is all one has to do to solve so many seemingly
intractable problems. A
Nick Palmer wrote:
Horace said I think we ought to see this email.
OK, here is the email in its entirety at the bottom with just a few
asterisks to protect the niceties. It's not that shocking. Remember
who set the tone first with their green crowd and bigmouth cracks.
FWIW I agree
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Cont'd thread from Thomas...
Granted that Russia has a siege mentality ever since Napoleon went
ice fishing in the Volga, can this simple reason explain the causes
and effect ?
The country is ruled by a criminal gang.
Shades of the children of Esau and Jacob with a
J. Klum wrote:
www.stifflerscientific.com and www.drstiffler.com were taken down by
accident when the wrong switch was thrown shutting down the lab for the
holiday. The DNS automatically defaults to the host.
The site is back up but DNS replications may take up to 72 hours worldwide.
The
thomas malloy wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
For your entertainment on this holiday weekend, here's a water heater,
which you can buy today, which is about a
The approach was developed for use as a heating plant on Russian
submarines back in the days of the USSR. (Why not just use
Jed Rothwell wrote:
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
These is an end of any line. Presently the unfunded mandates accrued
by the US gov't for social and health programs tops 50 trillion
dollars and change...
I think the severity of this problem is exaggerated somewhat, at least
with regard to Social
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
With the acceleration of research worldwide, is this telling us that
hydrogen is being given serious consideration as a replacement fuel
for gasoline and diesel?
Claims are rampant that the gas can be generated by electric power at
a fraction of the input
Horace Heffner wrote:
On Dec 8, 2007, at 7:36 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Horace wrote..
Batteries and plug in hybrids, especially diesel hybrids that also
run on biodiesel, seem to be the likely winners for the future
I actually have a typo in the above. It should say Batteries and plug
in
Some worthwhile quotes from the Economist regarding the current food
situation:
Since the spring, wheat prices have doubled and almost every crop
under the sun—maize, milk, oilseeds, you name it—is at or near a peak
in nominal terms. /The Economist/'s food-price index is higher today
than at
Jones Beene wrote:
Jeff Fink wrote:
I read somewhere a long time ago that the offspring of interracial
unions
are, in general, bigger healthier and smarter than pure breds.
Does any
one know the source of that, or if it has been proven.
It's called Heterosis or more simply hybrid vigor
Jeff Fink wrote:
Is it culture that allowed western Europe/America to develop such
incredible technology while all previous insipient techno societies such
as China and Egypt failed to mature technically?
I think this is a misleading question.
The sum total of human knowledge has
Crummy night -- we just had a layoff at work (I made the cut but some
very good people didn't). So the tone of this may be a little downbeat.
PHILIP WINESTONE wrote:
LOL I empathize... in all respects.
Does that make us a self-evolving species? I dunno.
Humans evolving -- hah. Let's
OrionWorks wrote:
A recent comment from the esteemed Mr. Malloy got me to thinking...
Thomas sez:
I'm reading John Sanford's Genetic Entropy and The
Mystery of the Genome. Dr. Sanford makes the case that
most mutations are deleterious, if not fatal, to the
individual.
I actually
Michel Jullian wrote:
Sensible contribution Stephen, but you must admit it's not reassuring to think of oneself as the
result of a number of dice throws. If you go down that slope, the next thing you lose is your own free will isn't it?
We are getting 'way off topic.
One problem with
Michel Jullian wrote:
But could our mind possibly be open to the idea that like paramecia we are machines, only with more
computing power? We couldn't possibly cope with this thought could we? We would have to resort to a
ghost in the machine, or even a deus in the machina...
Nonsense;
thomas malloy wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
Thomas sez:
The Cruncher's point being that there aren't enough seconds,
throwing the dice once per second, over the past 15,000,000,000
years to have tried all the potential combinations. And that's
just for the first genome. Stanford's point is
is a slightly more formal version of the proof.
On Dec 19, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote (in the WAY_OT:
The Mindless crap shoot of evolution thread):
Something I encountered with surprise when I first studied logic is
that the primary rule of inference:
(A = B) A = B
Jed Rothwell wrote:
[Reporting from home with the wrong return address . . .]
thomas malloy wrote:
Last night on the BBC news they reported the then breaking news
that the American missile had hit the spy satellite. I couldn't
help but smile, Parksie was wrong yet again. Long term
Quite some time back someone on this list -- Jed, maybe, or maybe it was
actually several people -- opined that alternative biofuels which
require arable land to grow could plausibly be viewed as, at least,
fundamentally stupid, or at worst as a crime against humanity.
Recently I've noticed
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Some environmental groups reject the focus on ethanol in examining food
prices.
This is sophistry at its finest:
The contrived food vs. fuel debate has reared its ugly head once
again, the Renewable Fuels Association says on its Web site, adding
that numerous
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:05:44 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
Whenever the people start to make actual headway, the currency is devalued to
the point that they are put back in their place. ;^) Most of the support being
provided by the Fed. is
Terry Blanton wrote:
Not irony; but, information. I had no idea that White Star was
intended to be a PHEV. I always thought it would be a BEV like the
Roadster.
The thing I find confusing about it is how anyone can claim that using a
gasoline-powered motor/generator and electric drive
Nick Palmer wrote:
I think it was Steven who wrote about the sophistry of the argument
about why food prices were rising (due to the diversion of corn
production into making ethanol biofuel). In today's technology review
http://www.technologyreview.com/Energy/20641/ they are looking at the
The government office concerned with such things has predicted that oil
prices will average about $101/bbl this coming year, if I recall correctly.
Commodities traders don't seem to agree. As I write this, May crude oil
contracts are going for $116.82/bbl.
That's up $4 in the last four
it injects cash
into the economy at the same time that it drains consumer goods from the
economy. It's very difficult to have a recession *and* a war at the
same time. Bush has managed it, but even he probably can't keep it up.
(Whoops -- check that Caveat again, folks.)
Ed
Stephen
Edmund Storms wrote:
While I agree with much of what you say, Richard, I don't think stock
trading needs to be gambling. It is too easy to evaluate reality and
choose stocks that always make money, at least for awhile. Its rather
like counting cards in 21, which moves the odds away from
R C Macaulay wrote:
A share of stock.. any stock is only worth what you can sell it for.
It used to have some relationship with a company's net worth and/or
assets and keyed to the dividend paid each year. NO MORE.. few
dividends are paid out anymore
FYI:
Median dividend yield for all
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
This is the first time I post on this message board, so please be gentle
=)
I just wanted to provide an outside view on the rising oil prices. To me
it seems like the value of $ has been dropping and if you look at the
increased price of oil and compare it
Terry Blanton wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
She is going to cut taxes. provide universal heath care,
Mutually exclusive.
Given the state of the economy, and the fact that Hillary isn't
promising an instant withdrawal from Iraq (as far as I
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Sometimes they go after the disease has become very serious, and then
they are bankrupted by the system, which -- as I said -- may charge a
patient his entire net worth in a few days. Healthcare costs are the
largest cause of middle-class bankruptcy.
Ironically, I've
Jed Rothwell wrote:
The PETA prize turns out to be bogus. They will only give it to
researchers who have already succeeded and who are in a position to
make billions.
That was actually quite clear from the earlier stories. The stuff must
go all the way to market before it's eligible, by
There's so much outright garbage on the Internet about the price of
oil, I decided to do a little crude modeling of my own to try to get a
handle on this. My conclusion is that, using a trivial model and
some simple historical values, it appears that oil may not get past
$150 in the next year.
There turned out to be some issues with the analysis I did.
First, a brief bit of background which I left out: Elasticity of
demand is the percentage by which demand changes for a given
percentage change in the price. So, if elasticity is -1, then if the
price increases by 10%, the amount
thomas malloy wrote:
Taylor J. Smith wrote:
Hi Stephen,
Nice simulation; but human greed and stupidity, which are impossible
to over-estimate, are not
Personal reflections:
I hope they're right. Not sure that I do.
Does your calculation factor in an increase in the supply of oil
A lot of marginal farmland in the United States has been returned to
forest land.
It's the same throughout much of New England -- lots of woods, but it's
all second growth because it all was farmland a century ago. It was
terrible farmland, but in the absence of the Interstate system and
Michel Jullian wrote:
That's for the cathode material, and it is nanostructured. The rest seems to be
standard Li ion battery materials.
It has all the features one can dream of for a Bettery (5mn charge, works down to
-30°C, 10 yrs life), except for energy density. From the page you quote:
Michel Jullian wrote:
They say here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery that the A123 battery
has slightly lower energy density that other competing Lithium Ion
technologies.
Standard Li-ion (not high power): 150 to 200 Wh/kg (sez above article), so slightly
lower would be
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
It is perhaps possible to provide a *stationary*
Fresnel array which has virtual tracking.
Imagine a fixed, stationary array of Fresnel lens and
underlying photocells, somewhat as in this image:
http://www.sinosolargroup.com/en/images/toushe33
thomas malloy wrote:
Rick also mentioned Li ion batteries. He said that Energetics will
never produce a charger for them. Apparently they tend to catch fire,
or explode. Either event is not conducive to getting a UL seal of
approval.
Of course we've all heard about the flaming power books
Mike Carrell wrote:
My take on BLP strategy. The publication of reports of experiments and
theory lets all see the RD, especially the patent department, a full
log of reduction to practice over many years. In the companion paper
Commercializable...you will find the approach is somewhat
Got this response from Robin von Spaandonk, who requested that I forward
it to the list.
=
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 28 May 2008 23:22:16
-0400:
Hi Steven,
Would you mind forwarding this to Vortex, it rejects me.
Michael Foster wrote:
Since I haven't read all the papers on LENR-CANR, I'm not sure if this subject
has already been covered. The recent Arata demonstration confirms what I've
thought for some time concerning the CF phenomenon. That is, the electrolytic
version of CF has been difficult to
Terry Blanton wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J30WGDq-AXU
Watch the brief scene in the hallway. The motion of the creature
looks very complex for a marionette.
What do inquiring minds think?
Inquiring minds think the old video footage of the Apollo astronauts
cavorting on the
OrionWorks wrote:
There's a popular NewAge saying which proclaims that we create our own
reality. I suspect most who ponder the ramifications of the NA phrase
take the meaning metaphorically, perhaps in the same vein as reading
certain passages from the bible, particularly Genesis. Others are
Edmund Storms wrote:
You are right, Steven, if belief were only required, the reality we find
ourselves in would not work and it would not survive long enough for us
to debate the issue. I suppose we could conclude that the Darwin process
has eliminated this possibility. If this is true,
Edmund Storms wrote:
To get back to science, a lot of scientific study has been done to
reveal the existence of this ability. The results of this work, at least
to me, show that thought transfer is real. But like all such claims,
this belief is rejected by conventional science. My question
Edmund Storms wrote:
Interesting logic, Stephen. Let's explore another possibility. Suppose
thought transfer is common in animals that do not have a complex
language. One might use schooling fish as an example or perhaps a flock
of birds. While other explanations can be suggested for the
Thanks -- that's a very nifty pair of anecdotes.
As one of our favorite demons once said, The plural of anecdote is
data (from the collected aphorisms of Bob Park).
They have a big advantage over the theophanies which are commonly
experienced (and which are one of the primary engines which
Terry Blanton wrote:
What is Magnetism
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/may/02-three-words-that-could-overthrow-physics
The author of the piece wants something that will explain why
magnets do what they do.
Physics doesn't explain. It models. There's a huge difference.
The model of
Harry Veeder wrote:
I am calling your bluff. ;-)
Not a bluff, though it involves some fuzzy reasoning. The difference
between a proof and an explanation has bugged me since junior high,
when I found out that most mathematical facts are proven without ever
being explained.
As I said
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Terry Blanton wrote:
Okay, so, say you have a machine which puts out 500 Watts with 50
Watts input and the model cost $5,000. Would anyone buy one?
I would, in a heartbeat. Especially if you can arrange to eliminate the
50 W input after she revs up, and self-sustain.
Terry Blanton wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With an IPO that raised say $10 billion (which alone
would drag things out an additional 6 months) you
could count on the first product capable of powering a
home coming to market in 4 years- at the
OrionWorks wrote:
Thanks for bringing Sai Baba back to my attention, Ed. How foolish of
me to have temporarily forgotten him.
Isn't it interesting that someone with his unique perception on
reality, combined with his ability to manipulate reality (seemingly
the fundamental laws of physics) as
I hadn't heard of this one until I stumbled across it while looking for
something else in Google. It's a high end niche car but none the less I
thought it was interesting.
Wheel motors, used on all electric locomotives, have, as far as I know,
never been used on a car (in recent memory, at
R C Macaulay wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
Gosh, golly, gee folks, here we go again with the Jews and arabs. This
time the wedge is oil. The USA uses oil like toilet paper and
everybuddy knows wez intitled to it.. or we think we do. We have enough
oil provided we turn off a few lights and live like
Harry Veeder wrote:
On 4/6/2008 10:53 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
I am calling your bluff. ;-)
Not a bluff, though it involves some fuzzy reasoning. The difference
between a proof and an explanation has bugged me since junior high,
when I found out that most
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:51:17 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Aether theory is predicated on the notion that there is some kind of
aether which carries some kind of vibrations; as such that's a sort of
fuzzy explanation (though the
OrionWorks wrote:
Philip sez:
...
People are where they are because it's where they
are, as part of the dream. My approach is, live
with it. go out, have a coffee and a bagel (or some
nice organic bread) and get on with life. There's
room enough for everyone, and everyone can make good,
Edmund Storms wrote:
Stephen, you are making a huge assumption when you say that past lives
are not remembered.
True, it's a big one; it's based on the small amount I've read about
brain science plus some major guesses.
So far, as we continue to learn more about brain function,
Jones Beene wrote:
Only problem is he sent out dozens of samples to MRI
XPS and NMR specialists and not a single one will
independently confirm his claim.
When contacted indpendently - even Mills best
supporter has hedged. Eric Kreig, no matter what you
may think of him, has tried to verify
Apology to all: This is way, way off topic. I won't respond again on
anything biblical, or even Middle Eastern, in this thread. (If you want
to yell at me about it do it privately and spare the rest of the list.)
thomas malloy wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
R C Macaulay wrote
won the pitched battles. But, will they win the war without
compromise?
Ed
thomas malloy wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
R C Macaulay wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
Gosh, golly, gee folks, here we go again with the Jews and arabs.
This time the wedge is oil. The USA uses oil like toilet paper
OrionWorks wrote:
Perhaps against my better judgment I feel compelled to share the
following incident. FWIW I believe it is a truthful account.
A couple of years ago at one of those informal UFO meetings I attend
in the Milwaukee area I had an unusual conversation with a good
acquaintance of
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