RE: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980
Now that the shuttle is gone, how do we keep kids interested in STEM? What inspiration does a teenager get from cargo drone launches? What would get you pumped up and want to spend your future doing science? *From:* Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Saturday, May 26, 2012 12:57 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980 Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Condemning the shuttle program is like condemning jet fighter aircraft bombers now that we have drones to do the dirty work. No, it is like condemning the F22 Raptor because that airplane was too ambitious, it tried to do too many different missions, and it costs way too much. The history of military aviation is filled with cost overruns and badly designed aircraft. Without the shuttle crew Hubble would be a piece of space junk. As noted, it would have been cheaper to abandon it as space junk, and launch another. Sending the Shuttle to fix it was a publicity stunt. *That mission alone* cost more than a replacement, never mind the whole Shuttle project. It is not surprising that a new Hubble would have been cheap. The Hubble is similar to the spy satellites the U.S. has been launching for decades. This is a mature technology with lots of experienced people. Unfortunately, when they were designing the Hubble, they ignored many of the lessons of the spy satellite business. The spooks contacted them and offered to help, but the designers blew them away. That is one of the reasons the Hubble had a bad lens and other problems. It was a fiasco in many ways. It was also overrun by academic politics, which degraded performance. Much of the design and operation was focused on preventing junior-level astronomers, staff or -- God forbid -- members of the public from making important discoveries, by locking up, restricting or degrading the data. Before the Hubble, a junior astronomer made a major finding by looking through the raw data. She got to it before the big-gun, well established experts got a chance. So they vowed to prevent this by structuring the whole project in the Mushroom Management Mode: keep your employees in the dark and feed them manure. Again, see the book Hubble Wars. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now
If we could pick any team in the world to do this testing, who would you trust? Who would be the Super Star team of scientists, skeptics and journalists who would be the most credible? On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-01-23_Independent_Testing_on_Hyperion_Reactors.pdf Interesting to say the least. Who will take up the challenge?
RE: [Vo]:Interesting new video from ecat.com
Is there only 1 container? If he has orders for multiple units how do we know that the unit in the video is the only one or is the one intended for the customer and not some development test bed/prototype? -Original Message- From: Aussie Guy E-Cat [mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:02 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interesting new video from ecat.com EL, There are other similar dark stains on the floor that did not evaporate. AG On 19/01/2012 10:56 PM, Energy Liberator wrote: That stains on the floor could be water (or another fluid) which evaporated leaving no stain. Admittedly they look dark for water but may be a product of the exposure. So I don't think it's conclusive. On 19/01/12 03:24, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Daniel, Try this image of the non and stained floors. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/shO4Ub6pXlC5p1kWhUIZ89MTjNZETYm yPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink AG On 19/01/2012 1:26 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: I cannot see colors well, I have some color blindness, deuteranomaly. Can you enhance the image?
Re: [Vo]:Misunderstanding Rossi
What if there was a political figure up for a re-election whose chances at re-election were iffy. How would this political figure use this to his advantage after other various green energy initiatives back fired? Would you have one of your agencies buy a few units and work with the inventor to claim that this was a result of a special support program to create new industry and jobs? What would be the outcome of an announcement that the politician lead the effort and provided financing and technical support for development? When would you have the scientist's come forward with the discovery? Early fall? Late summer? October? Remember Al Gore invented the Internet! On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Did anyone look for a time stamp on the video? It was obviously not taken at the same time at the earlier one, since the door is now closed. Also, when did the second video surface? Had Terry not posted that Rossi has already let it slip that he was replacing gaskets in the megawatt unit, then it would be easy for him, or a supporter to say the second video was taken on October 29, say, right before it was to be shipped, and furthermore that Rossi was doing the work at the customer's facility. Rght. How has Rossi survived financially? When AR made his agreement with DGT, he made it clear that they could have rights to all but the military. Many on the internet interpreted this to mean that AR did NOT want his invention to be used by the military and assigned him to noble causes (not Nobel, who regretted making TNT). Well, this author interpreted it differently. I saw it as an indication that AR already HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MILITARY. (I know, Mary, don't bother.) Now, all indications (to this author) is that AR is being funded by the military and his demonstration in October marked a milestone for a payment whether they took delivery or not. I would suggest that he probably got €500M or more and now is working to achieve full duty operation in order to achieve a second milestone. Or not. T
