The technology to create a sunlit, underground, green park is complex. Using
six tubes called collimators controlled by a computer and GPS system, the
system channels natural sunlight 15 feet down through a series of lenses and
suspended reflectors, which then bounce light back onto the
Recently-analyzed data from BaBar, a high-energy physics experiment based at
the US Department of Energy's SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory, show that a
particular type of particle decay called 'B to D-star-tau-nu' happens more
often than the Standard Model says it should
On the contrary, Heinz may love the idea. The faster the ketchup escapes, the
more likely you are to overpour. When that occurs, the 66 servings per bottle
become, in practice, substantially fewer. This means the bottle will need
replaced more frequently, and Heinz sells more ketchup.
Date:
The Google Doodle's interactive capabilities are based on HTML5. On my PC, the
Synth is only a pretty picture, with no interactive capabilities.
Today's Doodle is meant to be a nice demonstration of the capabilities of
HTML5, and a nice marketing tool for directing Googlers to upgrade to a
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_hydrogen_welding
So, arcing in a hydrogen environment produces monoatomic hydrogen from diatomic
hydrogen, eh?
From: jth...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 19:29:59 +0800
Seems to me that Woomera
Is this parody? The GGE website still appears to be solely SunCube-centric.
Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 05:19:53 -0700
From: gowatso...@yahoo.com
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Cool Fusion launch in Adelaide
Hi Guys
Green and Gold Energy is proud to announce the launch of our CoolCat ™
Before long, the New York Times will be but a room of servers. The editors will
be relegated to choosing computer-generated stories from those most
recommended for their target demographic. At least they'll have fewer typos.
A nice article on LENR progress providing only broad strokes, but a few
recent links:
http://cleantechauthority.com/lenr-finally-getting-traction/
It's worth a recap of recent news, I think. CERN, MIT and NASA discussions
were promising, but there has been a lack of news on the development
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2012/Report5-Rossis-Profitable-Career-in-Science.shtml
New Energy Times attempts to demonstrate the profitability of the alleged
investment scheme.
//Excerpt of note:
Energy Catalyzer Patent Applications - Italian Deadline Approaches
A deadline is
Speed increases as the satellite orbits closer to its parent, and slows as the
orbit is extended. As the x-axis is a linear representation of time, the
changes in speed during orbit serve to compress the wave troughs and expand
the wave peaks. Thus the wave resembles more of a bouncing ball
UPDATED (February 29): In an interview with New Technology, said Alexandros
Xanthoulis that the test was conducted on 24 February and that it is not
focused on security, as the product is ready for such tests. The focus instead
was to show that the released heat energy from a Low Energy
/snip/
* There is the initial report showing the system ran 4000 watts for
100 hours that showed a well-thought out overunity test. It was a 3rd
party test, paid for by the company. The report remains confidential,
but it was impressive enough to get Sterling Allan on a plane.
/snip/
We
Just a guess,
There is a general arcing characteristic of Fluorescent ballasts. The wide
frequency range emissions created by these arcs act much like lightning to an
AM radio signal. As the spectrum is wide enough, but varying amplitude, any
amplitude modulated signal would be likely
I've never delved into Casimir Force, but I have to say, it's really intriguing.
As I understand the basic evidence of Casimir Force: experiments seem to verify
that metal plates at extremely close distances in a vacuum preclude longer
wavelengths of the aether-equivalent, creating a higher
Sometimes, motivated 14-year-olds build treehouses; others, fusion reactors:
Taylor cranks it up to 40,000 volts. “Whoa, look at Snoopy now!” Phaneuf says,
grinning. Taylor nudges the power up to 50,000 volts, bringing the temperature
of the plasma inside the core to an incomprehensible 580
EARTHLINGS:
I'VE BEEN GETTING ALL KINDS OF BEEPING, STATIC ASKING IF I REALLY EXIST! THIS
IS FOOLERY. ASK ANY REAL SCIENTIST IN THE GALAXY (NOT THOSE
SNAKE-HEADED-ASTRONOMERS OF EARTH). THERE IS NO QUESTION BUT WE EXIST. I NO
LONGER REPLY TO SILLY BEEPS.
REGARDS,
ZAPHOD.
Date: Mon, 20 Feb
I believe that it was Jed that first made the comparison:
In the past ice (simple, frozen H2O) was delivered to businesses and homes.
Centralized production, then distribution made sense due to the technological
limitations of the time. Now that nearly every home in the developed world has
I received your original post entitled: Dick Smith $1M sentiments
The mail-archive site does on occasion miss emails, out fail to correctly
catalogue them. The best thing to do are:
A) Ensure that any time you create a new thread, you start a new email from
scratch. If you reply and change the
/snip/
If you had a smart person like me as leader of the country back in 1989, we'd
already have LENR as our main energy source if it is real...
Well, both private businesses and the government have wasted trillions on a
lot of stupider things...
/endsnips/
Thanks for the laugh. Now, please
The question was eventually asked, and skirted on Rossi's
journal-of-nuclear-physics.com:
Q:
Bill Conley
February 16th, 2012 at 10:27 AM Mr. Rossi,
Several months ago you said that although your first 1MW plant client wished to
remain confidential, a second client was willing to be
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XjyLGEdsMJM/Tz9AEkZYmjI/ABA/yUce73ufydQ/s400/ClownSnakeVulture.jpg
_
After scouring the net, I believe that it may have been during the first
Defkalion press conference, that Rossi grew wary of puppet-snakes, clowns,
and vultures.
If anyone is sitting on their hands, and is looking for a challenge, it may be
time to begin construction on a Wikipedia entry for Defkalion Green
Technologies. Such an entry needs to be entirely confined to reliable sources
(e.g., Republic of Greece, Government Gazette, 4 April 2011; Greek
It was mentioned here before, but this is not the first $1,000,000 reward
offered by Smith:
So today I am announcing Dick Smith’s Wilberforce Award – $1 million to go to
a young person under 30 who can impress me by becoming famous through his or
her ability to show leadership in
From Jarold:
/snip/
and what does that say about Defkalion who is only in the LENR business
because of Rossi. If no valid tests are performed by either group by March 31,
this whole thing is most likely a fraud.
/snip/
Defkalion GT was not invited and did not participate officially in any
The simplicity is elegant. Repeat your most-cited demonstration, and you'll
get $1 million USD, no strings attached.
You can buy use the money for whatever you want - You can use it for further
research - perhaps to re-purchase your house or even donate some of the money
to charity.
I'm
According to Sterling Allen:
A week ago today, I found an email in my inbox that had been sent to me on
November 28 that I had overlooked. It was from a person representing a company
in South Africa stating that they had a Fuel Free Generator, and that they had
seven working prototypes with
As It stands right now, no money is actually tied to these preorders. I'm
sure that in A.R's world, they serve to legitimize his claims. For a potential
investor, it would be requiring to hear that he has already received 100,000
firm commitments (and actually sold fourteen 1MW plants!).
As one
This is a lot of aluminum consumption. These are back-of-the-napkin-style
calculations, so I apologize if I've missed something, but (unless I've made a
large mistake) it appears that:
2[Al ]+ 6[H2O] + CC = CC + 2[Al(OH)3] + 3H2
So, two atoms of aluminum are consumed for every three atoms
While waiting for useful, conclusive information, impatience can lead to data
prospecting.
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=11
It seems that forums 11 thru 16 require special permissions.
Only f=11 displays a forum name: Associates Corner (Registered users of
@eskimo.com
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thoughts?
There are 3,154 posts in QA and Older Discussions:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/index.php
This was when the forum was open then closed due to too much riffraff
Sonoluminescence is undisputed. There is certainly bubble creation and light
release.
Notice that they lightly dance around the fusion claim in this article. All
fusion statements are forward-looking. I was reading in to their answers that
they had observed fusion, until Question #6.
Q6: Do
So, they made a control run, with a purely resistive load, but then used a
different input power on the CF run?
It seems that the red output delta T/input power is then scaled up for the
lower CF input power. Why was the same input power as the control run not used
in the CF run? This doesn't
SWAPAR, like SAPWAR, is a misspelling of the acronym SPAWAR. Navy Space and
Naval Warfare Systems Command.
They, like NASA, had been researching cold fusion/LENR. Under a small glare of
media attention, their program was possibly cancelled. There is a wealth of
information available by
An article at greenstyle.it seems to indicate that JET Energy's demonstration
was not hydrogen-nickel, but deuterium+tritium=helium.
Do we have any such confirmation?
R.L.
__
This is the article in question:
original -
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=www.greenstyle.it%2Ffusione-fredda-successo-per-un-test-effettuato-al-mit-7376.html
From: robert.leguil...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Cold Fusion.. openly demonstrated at MIT
Great news, and quite embarrassing for some. Ni-H could arguably to be
different enough from the original 1989 experiment to convince the public that
it's new. If JET is indeed demonstrating reliable 10x gains with palladium, the
question of past suppression is difficult to ignore. What the
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=autotl=enu=www.greenstyle.it%2FFe-cat-greco-defkalion-mostra-in-video-lhyperion-in-funzione-7299.html
Ian Bryce of the Australian Skeptics (and fact-finder for Dick Smith) recently
linked and posted an A.S. press release on Defkalion's forum:
http://defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=956
I'm thoroughly unimpressed with the comments from the Australian Skeptics:
Smith
From Defkalion's forum, they area claiming control over power peaks/troughs:
http://Defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=955p=5734#p5734
Defkalion GT
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:56 pm Posts: 437
@Engineer We had to ask (it was around midnight here ) our RD people who
performed that
Terry is dead-on. The autonomous Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles (UCAVs) can take
off by themselves, fly a grid pattern looking for targets, ask, permission to
engage when they find targets, then return home and land themselves.
It's been seven years since Boeing demonstrated autonomous vehicles
Well, I'm looking forward to seeing the videos in question.
On a side note, following link-to-link (as the internet often pulls
rail-switches on my trains of thought), I ran across this gem:
Are you attempting to mislead like the transgendered George ‘Mary Yugo’ Hody
of Thermonetics
Here's a quote from Mary regarding Storms thermocouples:
If you're going to air cool, you may wish to supplement your temperature
measurements for calorimetry with heat flux measurements. Heat flux
transducers, already calibrated, are commercially available (Google is your
friend). Some are
Agreed.
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:48:47 -0400
From: andre_vor...@blums.nl
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele
Passerini)
I vote for stopping the discussion about MY's real identity right here.
This is not what I read this
The statement at UNIBO indicates they will publish independent results:
However, the Department of Physics has made available its experience and its
equipment to carry out independent measurements on the production of heat by
equipment called E-cat in order to provide an answer to the entire
Earlier in the thread, hydrogen was mentioned as a control mechanism, or a
possible factor to be purged at the onset of quiescence:
I'm having trouble imagining that the existing reactor core has a pile of
nickel, a hydrogen gas fitting, and a hydrogen release for anything short of
emergency
What are the implications? Its the university going to sever all Rossi support?
Will they caution Giuseppe Levi from further involvement? Bianchini? If the
UNIBO contract is null and void, who are the two universities that Rossi is
referring to?
Ponderous. Really ponderous...
Date: Tue, 24
Not to beleaguer the point, but could you please show us this goo evidence?
Simply upload edits to the images that call attention to the relevant goop...a
simple red circle would do...
Many of us here on Vortex analyzed, even over-analyzed, those photos. I'm not
sure what
Horace Hefner did some excellent analysis on this subject, presuming that there
is a check valve and/or flow restrictor at the output.
From the stability of the E-Cat temp, you can tell that it is at boiling
temperature, with a mix of water and vapor. Simple steam charts will show you
that the
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
Even if he doesn't have a secret catalyst that enhances his reaction, he may
inadvertently become the catalyst that brings LENR into the mainstream...
I disagree with that reasoning. If Rossi is a fraud
/snip/
It is either minor confusion or a minor lie. Minor compared to the usual level
of chaos that Rossi sows when he opens his mouth. This incident sent AussiGuy
into a tizzy. I told him I do not understand why, because anyone who has dealt
with Rossi knows he does this kind of thing
During the September test (with the large steam release in question) the
temperature exceeded 133C... You can see it in the video.
During the October 6th test, the temperature reaches 123.8C at the onset of
self-sustaining mode, and it drops to 103C by the end of the test.
The only reference that I could find on ecat.com to dispensation of university
testing was more than two months ago, before Rossi seemed to have disavowed it:
Q: Will you do more public tests of the E-cat?
Asked by Ecat.com 2 months ago
A:
1- we made all the tests we had to make
2- no more
Those articles have been mentioned here in the past, but thanks for adding the
podcast to the mix.
Though there were absolutely no technical revelations, what I did take away
from the interview is the breath of investors being lured in.
In the past, Rossi claimed that the customer's money
After a bit of digging around the web, looking for commonality in the posts of
the two personas, it certainly seems likely that AG is Greg Watson. I would
concede that everything I've found is circumstantial, and that a string titled,
Goodbye Greg was probably premature.
Further, if they are
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
After a bit of digging around the web, looking for commonality in the posts of
the two personas, it certainly seems likely that AG is Greg Watson. I would
concede
___
When Defkalion was recently asked about testing (again), they replied:
As already stated in this forum, there are several independent tests scheduled
for the next period. All of them will be video-recorded/uploaded in YouTube or
National Instruments did not initiate a press release. Check the original
source at:
http://pesn.com/2011/11/10/9601953_National_Instruments_signs_to_do_E-Cat_controls/
Enquiries to National Instruments from the likes of Sterling Allen prompted
their press release (upon Rossi's
The article is not viewable in its entirety from your link, but if Vortexians
would like access to the whole article, it can be accessed via a quick Google
News search.
I think that we're all still in wait-and-see mode regarding Rossi and
Defkalion.
The only thing that I have taken away
It wouldn't be the first time that Krivit would have released something that he
shouldn't have.
All of the recent info that comes to mind was all derived from CMNS
communications.
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:19:41 +0100
From: shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
You guys must have missed the post by Patrick Ellul:
1. Italo R. January 18th, 2012 at 2:02 PM Dear Ing. Rossi, I have watched this
interview with you in Bologna realized on the 12th of January 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odkfAjqA4pc In it appears a 1 MW container. May
I ask you if
I've limited my skeptical Rossi criticisms awaiting a new test or any sort of
verifiable information.
I commend maryyugo for pulling back (a bit) on her repeated arm waving of
proof and independent testing, when no new information has been revealed.
But, I agree with her that some of the
His name was Thales of Miletus. g
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:25:53 -0500
From: sa...@pobox.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on the It was sent back statement
On 12-01-16 05:11 PM, Zell, Chris wrote:
Edison was a greedy liar and cheat who was cruel to
The story of the customer having returned the 1 MW unit originated from a post
here on Vortex claiming inside knowledge. Rossi has subsequently denied it was
returned by the customer. Rossi does say that he is working with National
Instruments and the customer in order to optimize it.
Date:
Peter,
I have an anonymous source claiming that Rossi is expecting patent approval in
the near term, and will be announcing not only the frequency of his RFG, but
the materiel composition of the catalyst in 81 days. Now we just have to wait
for 81 days... (am ersten April).
is 3-4 years. More often the application is rejected.
From: Robert Leguillon
Peter,
I have an anonymous source claiming that Rossi is expecting patent approval in
the near term, and will be announcing not only the frequency of his RFG, but
the materiel composition of the catalyst in 81
Though you could have modern steam vehicles, it is unlikely that this would be
the long-term solution for transportation.
Heat to electric conversion is the most likely candidate. By using a heating
medium with a large temperature range, an E-Cat/Hyperion could (in theory)
efficiently feed
I'll add to Jed's comments, that:
If cold fusion were indeed proved a geniune, plausible, pollution-free
alternative, the market would be upended due to external pressures. I could
not fathom a scenario where the climate lobbies would not try to exorbitantly
tax carbon-releasing fuels in
I have to say, take a look at:
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=483page=1#Item_0
The username maryyugo was banned from Steorn before December 2009.
Sorry, but she's been around the block a few times; Quite loudly.
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:18:28 -0500
Subject:
, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
I have to say, take a look at:
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=483page=1#Item_0
The username maryyugo was banned from Steorn before December 2009.
Sorry, but she's been around
Someone claiming to be Hank Mills chimed in on Rossi's JoNP webpage with:
__
Hank Mills
January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Hello Everyone,
I have recently become aware of the fact a certain other company (that everyone
here should be aware of) is claiming to have a robust
British scientists had previously turned on dormant teeth genes in chickens
(eluding to the evolutionary link with their Dino ancestors).
http://m.guardian.co.uk/education/2006/feb/23/research.highereducation?cat=educationtype=article
From: zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date:
Alex
January 5th, 2012 at 2:41 AM
Dear Mr. Rossi,
I understand you are in discussion with Home Depot for distribution of the Home
E-Cat. I was wondering:
1) Will Home Depot be requiring you to submit safety, and efficiency testing
through the Underwriters Laboratory (UL)?
2) Are you also In
About the University of Bologna deadline, I posted to
journal-of-nuclear-physics last night, asking Rossi about the pending deadline.
The post was awaiting moderation; as it doesn't appear to have passed
moderation, I'll add it here for posterity:
Robert L.
Your comment is awaiting
I'm much less apt to dismiss Defkalion out-of-hand. It's partly just an
objective evaluation of what limited information we have of the organization.
I'll happily grant them a bit of time before real skepticism sets in, mostly
based on Jed's claim that a competent observer has done a site
I've only just now read the abstract
(http://www.22passi.it/downloads/AbstrCelaniMar_Final_WSEC2012_A.doc).
It may not be new/compelling information, but it will be nice to see it
unveiled to such a diverse, international audience.
If only a few attendees leave asking questions, a lot of good
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/time-hole/
Like it never even happened...
If LENR reactions are sufficiently branded as dangerous, they could easily be
banned from personal use. We cannot legally build a homemade fission reactor
(even removing Americium from smoke detectors is regulated by the US Nuclear
Regulatory Commission). Likewise, activities involving
Sunday, January 8, 2012, 12-1:30 PM PST (20-21:30 GMT)
Dr. Edmund Storms comes to the program to discuss the latest regarding LERN,
Cold Fusion/CANR.
Edmund Storms obtained a Ph.D. in radiochemistry from Washington University
(St. Louis) and is retired from the Los Alamos National Laboratory
FWIW, I use tritium-illuminated sights on my compound bow.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium_illumination
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:48:58 -0500
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:The biological effects of radiation are difficult to quantify
Now that the holidays are winding to a close, is there any update on the
Defkalion visit?
Any rough approximation as to when information may be forthcoming?
More than likely, the website just has some really decent tracking software. It
wouldn't be all that surprising for the National GOP to outfit campaign
websites with quality snooping software.
If a website can hijack e-mail accounts on a single click, it's not that
difficult to fathom that it
I predict that LENR will see enormous growth and even a see real publication in
a peer reviewed journal. I think that transmutations will be nearly universally
accepted, but environ of competing theories will be too fluid to balance.
I predict that Rossi will not produce his own useful LENR
As a background to this, please remember that Rossi claims DGT has never been
in possession of the reactor. Defkalion claims that after separating from
Rossi, they developed their own core technology. From the Defkalion forum,
these are exact quotes from the administrator: Defkalion GT.
I wasn't done assembling that list, and sent it by accident. It's been sitting
in draft form for awhile, and I was adding a bit. Still, since it's out there:
Defkalion has claimed to have 115 Hyperions in simultaneous operation for
production of a 1 MW reactor. They've never seen gains
I completely and utterly agree that Rossi and Defkalion could not have both
been telling the truth.
So, now for assumptions that may or may not be accurate, based entirely on
opinion, supposition, wild speculation, and a little bit of a gut feeling:
It is possible that Defkalion was
The biggest problem with the early PF replication attempts was the lack of
respect given to the reactants. People trying to replicate did not understand
that it was a surface phenomenon. They did not understand that the cathode
could be easily poisoned. They did not understand that the
believe that
Rossi had, in one of his blog posts, claimed that he'd always used it.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:40:18 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion
From: maryyu...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Robert
They are disagreeing with your statement that Stremmenos accused them of
criminal activity.
You stated:
What is disturbing about Defkalion is their dispute with Stremmenos. To have
member of the Board of Directors accusing you of criminal activity in the mass
media is the worst public
http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/string-theory-big-bang-2238/
The researchers said the spontaneous symmetry-breaking resulted from a quantum
fluctuation — a momentary violation in the law of conservation of energy, which
is permitted by the rules of quantum mechanics.
The space-time has
From New Energy Times:
___
New Energy Times asked Braga yesterday whether the university had set a
specific deadline for the first payment.
“The deadline for this is mid-January, and, as far as I know, an extension is
unlikely,” Braga wrote
___
Exciting times.
If these Celani replications are accurate, and MIT has been witnessing Arata's
excess heat, then expect a peer-reviewed paper from someone in the near future.
If the patent work gets muddled due to decades of work by too many players,
the courts may have their hands full for
My children can buy a new MP3 album from iTunes.
If they missed something on TV, they can pause the DVR and rewind.
The words may eventually be elimanated, but the next generation is adopting
them without care of origin.
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:43:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold
Euphemisms never work. Whatever bothers people about the old word soon
attaches to the new word, so you end up generating word after word. For
example: toilet, bathroom, men's room, restroom, etc.
There is a huge industry of focus-group research that would vehemently
disagree. Changing
He who controls the language controls the argument.
The examples I'd provided were all to demonstrate the utility of changing the
terminology. You will not immediately remove stigma, but can restructure the
entire nature of the dispute. The change in name can have the largest effect on
those
Jed,
You should read the report you cite again. He doesn't ignore that the reactor
remained at boiling temperatures for four hours. He takes it head-on. Go
straight to pages 8 and 9.
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:31:17 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz
From:
Obviously, you just buy three 1MW reactors, and feed the output of the first to
the inputs of the other two. Voila! COP=4
Simply buy 15 E-Cats, feed 1 into 2, into 4, into 8 and you'll have a COP of
16.
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:39:17 -0800
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
From: a...@well.com
Or, if Rossi's claims of taming the wild cat really have merit, it's much more
simple.
If it needs 160 kw electrical input, feed 160 kw of the 300-330 output, and
have a 140 to 170 kW generator with no electrical input. COP = infinity. And a
TRUE self-sustaining device exists.
From:
Glad to see the video again. There have been so many different sources out
there, that it's easy to forget where the data comes from. I sure wish that
the source video from the Jan test was available; it would be great to analyze.
I feel even more uneasy about PetrolDragon after seeing this
...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz
Robert Leguillon wrote:
I feel even more uneasy about PetrolDragon after seeing this video,
again. The descriptions of Rossi's ability to fool scientists is in
stark contrast to Mr. Rothwell's
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz
Robert Leguillon wrote:
You said:
No, he is a terrible psychologist.He does not know how
to fool anyone.
That's what I meant by:
The descriptions of Rossi's ability
1 - 100 of 273 matches
Mail list logo
