Real, the car accelerates to a greater speed, and the end point is below
the starting point.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 19:02, Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlSv_IlXmBg
>
> Two cars.
>
> Green low road car arrives first.
>
> Real or Fake.
>
> Please explain
Frank
The effect is an interesting phenomenon even if the tendency is to overlook
rolling resistance and friction. But the problem for the average observer - the
problem with any metaphor or model for LENR - after all these years, is simple.
No commercial device.
Not just no commercial device
Thanks Jones.
To me it is a metaphor for catalysis.
One half of component A drops down the field pressure gradient to the low
road and speeds up.
The other half dawdles along the surface.
They both meet up at B and complete their reaction.
The reaction speed for the low road is therefore much faste
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachistochrone_curve
That's rightBut to less "with it " people in some forums it seems a
terrible enigma. :-)
The trouble with the maths is that it kills all vestige of the real world
and prevents one seeing the demo in a different light. For example an
analogue t
This similar vid is even a bit more "fake" in terms of expectation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvlmdPLMQM4
The more general phenomenon seems to be called the Brachistochrome Problem
https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Brac
Jones
Frank Grimer wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlSv_IlXmB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlSv_IlXmBg
Two cars.
Green low road car arrives first.
Real or Fake.
Please explain your choice.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 07:55, Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
No text
Frank Grimer wrote:
Test of text
Test of text
testing
Harry
Previous email bounced.
Watch out where the huskies go
And don't you eat that yellow snow.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 6:07 AM wrote:
>
> Testing from mx1
>
Testing from mx1
Testing mounting smartlist from mail.
Testing
rooly!
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
local asymmetry = temporary success
Working now. There was a glitch yesterday.
I received Beaty test.
Bob Cook
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
From: leaking pen
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:24:59 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:test
didnt get it. sorry.
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9
didnt get it. sorry.
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:14 PM William Beaty wrote:
> test
>
>
test
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
local asymmetry = temporary success
Posts not appearing on mailing list but do end up in archive.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
local asymmetry = temporary success
Test
Dear Friends,
It is peak time of the assassination attempts for the Rossi test.
Rossi and the Professors are not reading my Blog so they don't know the 1 =
0 rule.
The results make physics' best and most faithful scholars angry.
But as I show here- just published it:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot
Thanks Jed!
This was indeed an automated spamfilter change causing the problem.
I'll keep an eye on the spambox more often now.
Good you sent me a response to my private mail address too, otherwise it
would have taken me longer to find out.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Michele Comitini wrote:
Confirmed here too! gmail has put vortex-l on the spam-list!
It is not just Vortex messages. I think the filter is being triggered by
unusually short messages. Other short messages from various people have
been marked as Spam lately. Google must have tweaked their spam
Confirmed here too! gmail has put vortex-l on the spam-list! I
suppose that a number marking vortex-l messages as "NOT SPAM"
would help the filter bot change its mind...
2014-04-23 16:16 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene :
> This happened to me recently.
>
> The solution that worked for me is to re-subscribe
This happened to me recently.
The solution that worked for me is to re-subscribe.
To subscribe, send a *blank* message to:
vortex-l-requ...@eskimo.com
Put the single word "subscribe" in the subject line of the header. NOTHING
else!
No quotes around "subscribe," of course.
-Original Me
Wow, same here! :O
2014-04-23 9:56 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :
> Check your spam file. Gmail has suddenly started sending many of my Vortex
> messages to the spam file. Actually, it does not send them, because I have a
> filter set up to overrule it, but many messages say:
>
> This message was not se
Check your spam file. Gmail has suddenly started sending many of my Vortex
messages to the spam file. Actually, it does not send them, because I have
a filter set up to overrule it, but many messages say:
*This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created.*
(Your message said that
Haven't been receiving mails from Vortex for 2 days.
This is a reflector test
Vortex let this go through. But then it clamped down again.
I still can't post a new subject thread. This is weird.
Steve
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:32 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]
Pinging vortex.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/
:-)
You never know what people will find useful.
Harry
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wrote:
> Thanks H Veeder. These characters do text in Kindle while the font symbol
> does not. I updated my e book with these symbols and removed words like
> omega.
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>
> θ ω ε ρ τ ψ υ
The second phi is the same as the 3rd symbol font phi in chrome.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:20 AM, wrote:
> The one that is giving me trouble is phi a circle with a line though it.
> This is what Greek has:
>
> φ Φ
>
>
>
> They are not quite right. Here it is in symbol
>
>
> font.
>
>
> Φ
>
The one that is giving me trouble is phi a circle with a line though it. This
is what Greek has:
φ Φ
They are not quite right. Here it is in symbol
font.
Φ
Frank
Still Greek...in Chrome on XP SP3.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:36 AM, H Veeder wrote:
> This is a test to see if the greek letters I have copied and pasted into
> this message are preserved as they pass through the mail programs.
>
> The characters come from this site
>
> http://greek.typeit.org/
Try this one. It's classical greek, a very interesting text from Socrates.
So, you may test the abilities of google translate :)
καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς Μωυσῆς ῞Ινα τί ἐζωγρήσατε πᾶν θῆλυ;
αὗται γὰρ ἦσαν τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ κατὰ τὸ ῥῆμα Βαλααμ τοῦ ἀποστῆσαι καὶ
ὑπεριδεῖν τὸ ῥῆμα κυρίου ἕνεκεν Φογωρ, καὶ ἐ
Thanks H Veeder. These characters do text in Kindle while the font symbol does
not. I updated my e book with these symbols and removed words like omega.
Frank
θ ω ε ρ τ ψ υ ι ο π α σ δ φ γ η ς κ λ ζ χ ξ ω β ν μ
Θ Ω Ε Ρ Τ Ψ Υ Ι Ο Π Α Σ Δ Φ Γ Η ς Κ Λ Ζ Χ Ξ Ω Β Ν Μ
Harry
perfect greek. now I wait for news in greek ;-)
any one for news in chinese (old news)
近日，国家低碳能源规划研究院院长
、高灵能源投资股份有限公司总裁戴思嘉在东钓鱼台‘星湖园温泉庄园’会见了美国切诺基基金联合主席托马斯·达顿，双方就美国方面的镍发电能源技术问题，进行了系统的交流磋商，就共同合作推进这一革命性的能源技术达成了一致认识。国家发改委和国务院国资委以及国家能源局的有关领导一同参加了会见。
在全球能源紧缺的背景下，新型能源的发展正方兴继涌。而处于镍反应终试阶段的报告显示，低温镍反应发电技术
This has been an enigma for me. There are Greek letters in the font symbol and
just plain Greek letters. I could never quite figure out what the difference
is. Kindle does not text symbol characters. That's been a problem. I will
try these.
Frank
And on Chrome.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Nigel Dyer wrote:
> I get greek: running thunderbird on windows 7
>
> Nigel
>
>
> On 16/02/2014 06:36, H Veeder wrote:
>
>> This is a test to see if the greek letters I have copied and pasted into
>> this message are preserved as they pass throug
I get greek: running thunderbird on windows 7
Nigel
On 16/02/2014 06:36, H Veeder wrote:
This is a test to see if the greek letters I have copied and pasted
into this message are preserved as they pass through the mail programs.
The characters come from this site
http://greek.typeit.org/
θ
This is a test to see if the greek letters I have copied and pasted into
this message are preserved as they pass through the mail programs.
The characters come from this site
http://greek.typeit.org/
θ ω ε ρ τ ψ υ ι ο π α σ δ φ γ η ς κ λ ζ χ ξ ω β ν μ
Θ Ω Ε Ρ Τ Ψ Υ Ι Ο Π Α Σ Δ Φ Γ Η ς Κ Λ Ζ Χ
generally recognized as
being invented about 3200 BCE concerning a technology hopefully reaching the
stage of practical implementation 'relatively' soon.
It will work for me.
Mason
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:29:56 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Test Message
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To
Mason Ainsworth wrote:
> Please respond if you don't get this.[image: Emoji]
>
How can you respond if you do not get something?! "Raise your hand if you
absent from class."
Perhaps you refer to the emoji (絵文字). That did not come through. This is a
primitive mailing list. ASCII only. We do not
First email to this list.
Please respond if you don't get this.😉
this is a test
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be nice to get some statistics out of that, any links?
>
Although this is a reasonable request, there are two difficulties in
addressing it. The first is that the experiments span a range of
qualit
yes, and seeing the story of LENR compared to other extraordinary claims, I
think that the problem of LENr is that it requires much intelligence,
competence, trust in instruments, in computation, in good protocol, that it
is too easy for a lazy mind (like me sometime) to quickly conclude that it
is
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell me if I'm spaming ...
>
Not in the slightest. You seem to know something about statistics. I hope
you will be very critical and complain about any mistaken reasoning you
see. There are many electrica
Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote:
> My take on this is that 'unusual method' depends a bit on the standard
> practices in a field of science. If for example it is "easy" to perform a
> test with good enough energy surplus, then we only need to supply the
> numbers like, take every 10th specimen in
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Alain Sepeda wrote:
>
> I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given
>> the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP.
>>
>
> I agree, but you do need a good calibration before and after the test. I
> suppose
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
> I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given
> the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP.
>
> Absolute measurement of heat, not even with blank, should be the only and
> best solution.
>
> no hysterical ske
Alain Sepeda wrote:
I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given
> the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP.
>
I agree, but you do need a good calibration before and after the test. I
suppose that amounts to the same thing as comparative calorimetry.
It is
I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given
the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP.
Absolute measurement of heat, not even with blank, should be the only and
best solution.
no hysterical skeptic will assume the blank is sincere, ...
even the absolute heat
Tell me if I'm spaming ...
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
> stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> But I would like to keep the discussion to the original FP experiment.
>>
>
> Ah, yes. Sounds good. It seems yo
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
> it seems National instruments asked such doublinded test in 2012,
> according to the conference of Concezz in Rome (and Brussels)...
>
Do you have any better links, I find this test interesting a.t.m.
Of cause when the risk of fraud and ugly
nder black budget projects.
Fran
From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Alain Sepeda
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:41 PM
To: Vortex List
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Test to show LENR?
it seems National instruments asked such doublinded test in 2012, accordi
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But I would like to keep the discussion to the original FP experiment.
>
Ah, yes. Sounds good. It seems you are pretty familiar with the details,
then.
> There is a reason why heavy water is typically
it seems National instruments asked such doublinded test in 2012, according
to the conference of Concezz in Rome (and Brussels)...
about industrial claims, there is similar concern, not of doubleblind, but
because of suspected fraud by testers.
One big fear of industrialist is when the tester orga
Hi Eric,
I'm not up to speed with your emails. The LENR+ type of activities is still
something that if proper tests are
done and affirmative, will be much more interesting, this is clear. But I
would like to keep the discussion to the
original FP experiment.
> I think this would be an interestin
I wrote:
So if the test concerns the *existence* of LENR, rather than a parameter
> that affects it, I think another control should be sought out. Whatever
> that other control is (input power turned off, a different substrate or
> cathode, or some other property), could be varied in the manner y
Hi,
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
H0: the seen effect if it's seen, does not depend on the type of water
> H1: It does depend on the type of water.
>
I think this would be an interesting test to whether there is a possible
isotope effe
Hi all, I wanted to ask you how to best do a test proving LENR.
After following this for a short time I would probably try something like
this,
I would use two teams
1. The testers, people well versed in LENR and know how to make the
classic FP experiment work.
2. The skeptics, a scientific team
Not working . . .
I see you
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:
> Vortex, are you down?
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
Vortex, are you down?
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Vortex bouncing messages from me and Ed Storms. eskimo.com has it in for us!
- Jed
I'll pong even though you didn't ping.
Maybe I should just take a shower ;)
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM, William Beaty wrote:
>
>
> (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )))
> William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website
> billb at amasci
OK Bill
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:04 AM, William Beaty wrote:
>
>
> (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )))
> William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website
> billb at amasci com http://amasci.com
> EE/programmer/sci-e
Testing from gmail.
a c c d true false false true antidisetablishmentarianism , because
sailing, travel, and monster stories were popular, thus Moby Dick was a
preemptive commercial success.
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:04 PM, William Beaty wrote:
>
>
> (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )
Thanks, Bill!
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM, William Beaty wrote:
>
>
> (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )))
> William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website
> billb at amasci com http://amasci.com
> EE/programmer/
This is a test of the emergency broadband system. If this had been an
actual emergency your computer would be a smoking heap. No need to reply
to this test.
Test response. Message received. Other messages not posting.
Messages not posting.
The list got too skeptical ? Demanded two-factor authorization?
=8-(
(( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )))
William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website
billb at amasci com http://amasci.com
EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair
Seattle, WA 206-762-38
James Bowery wrote:
Yep.
>
> Thank you, world's richest man.
>
Probably not Microsoft's fault. But hey, let't blame 'em! They are guilty
of a lot of things.
- Jed
Yep.
Thank you, world's richest man.
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM, James Bowery wrote:
> A test response.
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:26 AM, James Bowery wrote:
>
>> This is a test to determine whether the problem with response prefix
>> explosion was caused by funny "windows" characte
A test response.
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:26 AM, James Bowery wrote:
> This is a test to determine whether the problem with response prefix
> explosion was caused by funny "windows" characters such as –
>
> which appeared in the title of the prior thread.
>
This is a test to determine whether the problem with response prefix
explosion was caused by funny "windows" characters such as –
which appeared in the title of the prior thread.
The reason I said it is at your end is that when I responded to the same
threads, no explosion happened whereas when you responded, it did happen.
At least that's the way it appeared at this end.
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Nope. No recursive explosion of Re: Re: Re:
Nope. No recursive explosion of Re: Re: Re:
It must be something like the dash in the title. The Eskimo.com mail system
is bonkers.
- Jed
Test response. Let's see if James Bowery is right and this is something at
my end.
- Jed
Test. Please ignore.
It has been down for a couple of days.
I monitor the eskimo yahoo group and did not see any notice. Maybe
they didn't give one? :-)
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:07 PM, William Beaty wrote:
>
> eskimo.com ISP is transferring the software to a new machine. Something
> went wrong?
>
>
>
> (
nothing observed
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:07 PM, William Beaty wrote:
>
> eskimo.com ISP is transferring the software to a new machine. Something
> went wrong?
>
>
>
> (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )))
> William J. BeatySCIENCE
eskimo.com ISP is transferring the software to a new machine. Something
went wrong?
(( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )))
William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website
billb at amasci com http://amasci.com
EE/pr
test
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
the list was hiccuping earlier
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> a little to the right
>
a little to the right
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:01 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> BTW, I noticed that Google is upgrading "docs.google.com" to
> "drive.google.com"
Good movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780504/
Better movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1502404/
Hot movie: http://www.imdb.com/titl
>From Terry.
> Post it in docs.google.com
I finally posted my scribblings under the subject thread: "Groking
CoAM, Kepler and Rossi" as a txt file. Nothing appears to have gotten
terribly garbled.
BTW, I noticed that Google is upgrading "docs.google.com" to "drive.google.com"
Under new manageme
Subject: Re: [Vo]:test
Post it in docs.google.com
T
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
wrote:
> Drat!
>
> I'm trying to send a post in HTML format because it contains some font
> changes to make it easier to read some formulas. I got it dow
Post it in docs.google.com
T
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
wrote:
> Drat!
>
> I'm trying to send a post in HTML format because it contains some font
> changes to make it easier to read some formulas. I got it down to under 40k
> but Vortex-l still doesn't l
Drat!
I'm trying to send a post in HTML format because it contains some font
changes to make it easier to read some formulas. I got it down to under 40k
but Vortex-l still doesn't like it.
Oh, well... I'll send it in raw text format.
Screw the fancy fonts!
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.Or
Eskimo.com is replacing the mail server with new h/w and s/w. Some
hiccups have been experienced of late; but, patience will be a virtue.
T
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> No, try again.
>
> T
>
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:47 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
> wr
No, try again.
T
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:47 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
wrote:
> Is this getting through?
>
>
>
> svj
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