Re: [Vo]:grand plan for electric cars in ontario

2009-01-16 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Harry,

Electric cars sure make sense. When I was a kid  there were still a few around. 
Almost trouble free performance.
BUT.. we had a surplus of electric generating capacity.. TODAY we are bumping 
our head on the ceiling of capacity. This summer should give us a real shock 
across the USA with brownouts. 

This poses the question.. IF electric power shortages begin to become serious 
this year... AND.. Nuke plants take min of 9 years to build.. and BO willl tax 
coal plants outa business.. and gas turbine plants are too expensive to 
compete..
Where the heck are we gonna get the electric power to re-charge the 
electro-cars?
Richard

Re: [Vo]:grand plan for electric cars in ontario

2009-01-16 Thread Jed Rothwell

R C Macaulay wrote:

BUT.. we had a surplus of electric generating capacity.. TODAY we 
are bumping our head on the ceiling of capacity. This summer should 
give us a real shock across the USA with brownouts.


This is not a problem. Most electric cars will be in use during the 
day, and they will be recharged overnight, when there is tremendous 
unused generator capacity.


- Jed



Re: [Vo]:grand plan for electric cars in ontario

2009-01-16 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:45 AM, R C Macaulay walha...@cvtv.net wrote:

 Where the heck are we gonna get the electric power to re-charge the
 electro-cars?

At night, wholesale power is free due to excess capacity as Jed points out.

During the day, we will do like the Fed, and simply print power:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-9972306-54.html

Terry



Re: [Vo]:grand plan for electric cars in ontario

2009-01-16 Thread Terry Blanton
But so far, electric car manufacturers have been a disappointment:

http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/13/electric-cars-disappointed-in-2008-and-2009-wont-be-different/

Terry

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Harry Veeder hvee...@ncf.ca wrote:
 Grand plan for electric cars takes shape in Ontario

 Last Updated: Thursday, January 15, 2009 | 12:45 PM ET
 Comments129Recommend83

 CBC News

 A U.S. company that promotes infrastructure to support electric cars is
 going to open a site in Toronto to demonstrate the vehicles, Shai Agassi,
 founder and CEO of Better Place, said Thursday.

 He called the joint announcement with the provincial government the
 all-important first step in an expected electric car charging network
 rollout for Canada.

 Ontario is supporting the plan by studying ways to speed up the introduction
 of electric cars to the province, said Premier Dalton McGuinty. The study is
 scheduled for release in May.

 It will look at financial incentives to encourage drivers to buy electric
 vehicles, giving such cars preferred access to the transportation grid,
 having the government buy electric vehicles and promoting them...

 http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/01/15/ontario-electric.html



[Vo]:grand plan for electric cars in ontario

2009-01-15 Thread Harry Veeder


Grand plan for electric cars takes shape in Ontario
Last Updated: Thursday, January 15, 2009 | 12:45 PM ET Comments129Recommend83
CBC News 

A U.S. company that promotes infrastructure to support electric cars is going to open a site in Toronto to demonstrate the vehicles, Shai Agassi, founder and CEO of Better Place, said Thursday.
He called the joint announcement with the provincial government "the all-important first step in an expected electric car charging network rollout for Canada."
Ontario is supporting the plan by studying ways to speed up the introduction of electric cars to the province, said Premier Dalton McGuinty. The study is scheduled for release in May.
It will look at financial incentives to encourage drivers to buy electric vehicles, giving such cars preferred access to the transportation grid, having the government buy electric vehicles and promoting them...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/01/15/ontario-electric.html