RE: [Vo]:The most mysterious star in the universe

[Bob Cook]

In reply to  H LV's message of Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:16:16 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On May 30, 2016 6:38 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

 In reply to  H LV's message of Mon, 30 May 2016 15:11:52 -0400:
 Hi,
 [snip]

 1) I wonder if they have considered the possibility that the output of
the star
 itself is simply variable?

Given what is known about how stars work they probably consider such a
possibility even less likely  than an alien structure blocking the light.
On the other hand perhaps an alien civilisation is tinkering with the
star's internal reactions.
Harry

Perhaps, though it need not be. Another possibility is that the star has
"swallowed" foreign bodies that are interfering with it's internal reactions.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:The most mysterious star in the universe

[mixent]

In reply to  H LV's message of Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:16:16 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>On May 30, 2016 6:38 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> In reply to  H LV's message of Mon, 30 May 2016 15:11:52 -0400:
>> Hi,
>> [snip]
>>
>> 1) I wonder if they have considered the possibility that the output of
>the star
>> itself is simply variable?
>
>Given what is known about how stars work they probably consider such a
>possibility even less likely  than an alien structure blocking the light.
>On the other hand perhaps an alien civilisation is tinkering with the
>star's internal reactions.
>Harry

Perhaps, though it need not be. Another possibility is that the star has
"swallowed" foreign bodies that are interfering with it's internal reactions.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:The most mysterious star in the universe

[H LV]

On May 30, 2016 6:38 PM,  wrote:
>
> In reply to  H LV's message of Mon, 30 May 2016 15:11:52 -0400:
> Hi,
> [snip]
>
> 1) I wonder if they have considered the possibility that the output of
the star
> itself is simply variable?

Given what is known about how stars work they probably consider such a
possibility even less likely  than an alien structure blocking the light.
On the other hand perhaps an alien civilisation is tinkering with the
star's internal reactions.
Harry

>
> >The most mysterious star in the universe
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gypAjPp6eps
> >
> >Published on Apr 29, 2016
> >
> >Something massive, with roughly 1,000 times the area of Earth, is
blocking
> >the light coming from a distant star known as KIC 8462852, and nobody is
> >quite sure what it is. As astronomer Tabetha Boyajian investigated this
> >perplexing celestial object, a colleague suggested something unusual:
Could
> >it be an alien-built megastructure? Such an extraordinary idea would
> >require extraordinary evidence. In this talk, Boyajian gives us a look at
> >how scientists search for and test hypotheses when faced with the
unknown.
> >
> >?Harry?
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>

Re: [Vo]:The most mysterious star in the universe

[mixent]

In reply to  David Roberson's message of Mon, 30 May 2016 21:56:46 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>One would think that the astronomers have cataloged enough stars during the 
>original research project to know how the variable ones behave.  Of course it 
>is entirely possible that what they are seeing is a rare form of variable star 
>like you are suggesting.
>
>I wonder what would happen if a large field of dark bodies much closer to the 
>earth were passing in front of the star?  Once, I suggested that it might be 
>possible to detect 'UFO' type objects by observing as many of the background 
>stars as possible while looking for variation to the intensity of the light 
>arriving from them.   This concept is a bit like radar in reverse.  Even a 
>craft with a stealth coating would be visible using this scenario.
>
>For my concept to work it would be necessary to figure a way to ignore the 
>twinkle of the stars caused by atmospheric variations.  I assumed that a local 
>craft would blank out a region in space that is much larger than a star 
>appearing behind it from the earth's surface.  This should be apparent to the 
>observer in most cases.  The location and motion of the craft could be 
>determined by following the series of blanked out stars.
>
>Dave
While this is true, note that the drop in intensity in this case was only about
15%. While, as you note, an object close to Earth would block out 100%.

BTW another possibility is that the comet shower which has already been proposed
as an explanation may have been triggered by a massive object (rogue planet,
brown dwarf, or small black hole) passing through the "Oort cloud" of the system
in question, thus disturbing the orbit of thousands of orbiting objects, and
sending them into the inner system.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:The most mysterious star in the universe

[David Roberson]

One would think that the astronomers have cataloged enough stars during the 
original research project to know how the variable ones behave.  Of course it 
is entirely possible that what they are seeing is a rare form of variable star 
like you are suggesting.

I wonder what would happen if a large field of dark bodies much closer to the 
earth were passing in front of the star?  Once, I suggested that it might be 
possible to detect 'UFO' type objects by observing as many of the background 
stars as possible while looking for variation to the intensity of the light 
arriving from them.   This concept is a bit like radar in reverse.  Even a 
craft with a stealth coating would be visible using this scenario.

For my concept to work it would be necessary to figure a way to ignore the 
twinkle of the stars caused by atmospheric variations.  I assumed that a local 
craft would blank out a region in space that is much larger than a star 
appearing behind it from the earth's surface.  This should be apparent to the 
observer in most cases.  The location and motion of the craft could be 
determined by following the series of blanked out stars.

Dave

 

 

 

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Sent: Mon, May 30, 2016 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The most mysterious star in the universe

In reply to  H LV's message of Mon, 30 May 2016 15:11:52 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]

1) I wonder if they have considered the possibility that the output of the star
itself is simply variable? 


>The most mysterious star in the universe
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gypAjPp6eps
>
>Published on Apr 29, 2016
>
>Something massive, with roughly 1,000 times the area of Earth, is blocking
>the light coming from a distant star known as KIC 8462852, and nobody is
>quite sure what it is. As astronomer Tabetha Boyajian investigated this
>perplexing celestial object, a colleague suggested something unusual: Could
>it be an alien-built megastructure? Such an extraordinary idea would
>require extraordinary evidence. In this talk, Boyajian gives us a look at
>how scientists search for and test hypotheses when faced with the unknown.
>
>?Harry?
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:The most mysterious star in the universe

[mixent]

In reply to  H LV's message of Mon, 30 May 2016 15:11:52 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]

1) I wonder if they have considered the possibility that the output of the star
itself is simply variable? 


>The most mysterious star in the universe
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gypAjPp6eps
>
>Published on Apr 29, 2016
>
>Something massive, with roughly 1,000 times the area of Earth, is blocking
>the light coming from a distant star known as KIC 8462852, and nobody is
>quite sure what it is. As astronomer Tabetha Boyajian investigated this
>perplexing celestial object, a colleague suggested something unusual: Could
>it be an alien-built megastructure? Such an extraordinary idea would
>require extraordinary evidence. In this talk, Boyajian gives us a look at
>how scientists search for and test hypotheses when faced with the unknown.
>
>?Harry?
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html