Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon
This is not a conclusion. (There extremely rarely is a two 511keV e+/e- decay signal seen. Its a special case that can only happen in a contained case. Free e+/e- annihilation usually is a 3 photon decay with <<0.01% being of 511keV...) This are experimental facts from multiple different setups. You might read:: Yoshihiko Hatano Yosuke Katsumura A. Mozumder, Charged Particle and Photon Interactions with Matter Recent Advances, Applications, and Interfaces, CRC Press Standard Book Number-13: 978-1-4398-1180-1, 2011 Chapter VII J.W. On 07.05.2022 19:36, bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: WJAT ARE THE CLASSICAL LAWS OF PHYSICS THAT FORM THE BASIS OF THIS CONCLUSION? DO THE ASASUMED ELECTRIC AND MAGNETIC PROPERTIES OF space AS IN MAXWELL’S TYHEORY APPLY? BOB COOK *From: *Jürg Wyttenbach <mailto:ju...@datamart.ch> *Sent: *Monday, May 2, 2022 3:18 PM *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon William There extremely rarely is a two 511keV e+/e- decay signal seen. Its a special case that can only happen in a contained case. Free e+/e- annihilation usually is a 3 photon decay with <<0.01% being of 511keV... The 511keV decay signal is an old illusion, that triggered a completely wrong understanding of physics. J.W. On 02.05.2022 18:01, William Beaty wrote: > Still, the 2-photon 180deg emission from positron annihilation ...hard > to explain any of that Entaglement stuff. Must perhaps add > many-worlds version of reality, to the particle-sea of SED theory. -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06 -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
RE: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon
WJAT ARE THE CLASSICAL LAWS OF PHYSICS THAT FORM THE BASIS OF THIS CONCLUSION? DO THE ASASUMED ELECTRIC AND MAGNETIC PROPERTIES OF space AS IN MAXWELL’S TYHEORY APPLY? BOB COOK From: Jürg Wyttenbach<mailto:ju...@datamart.ch> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 3:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon William There extremely rarely is a two 511keV e+/e- decay signal seen. Its a special case that can only happen in a contained case. Free e+/e- annihilation usually is a 3 photon decay with <<0.01% being of 511keV... The 511keV decay signal is an old illusion, that triggered a completely wrong understanding of physics. J.W. On 02.05.2022 18:01, William Beaty wrote: > Still, the 2-photon 180deg emission from positron annihilation ...hard > to explain any of that Entaglement stuff. Must perhaps add > many-worlds version of reality, to the particle-sea of SED theory. -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
RE: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon
The recent research begs the question Is space continuous to zero? Planck’s constant and its scale at 10 -35 meters seems to suggest a quantized space of 3 dimensions with a a primary direction in line with any magnetic field >0. Jurg’s analyses that indicate that protons are the same as a toroidal shaped magnetic flux also lens validity to the that protons are comprised of about 1800 electron-like primary particles ( charge centers.) This data was derived from high energy electron probed of H and neutrons at SLAC. William Stubbs has written a book on these inelastic scattering test. IMHO quantized angular momentum and magnetic moments in a model of a bound neutrino are related to the proton modeling. And the t the classical assumption about magmatic permeabity and electric al permittivity of space and the speed of light will emerge as well from the idea of quantized space. Bob Cook From: William Beaty<mailto:bi...@eskimo.com> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 9:01 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, H LV wrote: > > New research shows that laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics > phenomenon > https://phys.org/news/2020-07-laser-spectral-linewidth-classical-physics-ph > enomenon.html VERY cool! > Perhaps this points to a new kind of physics which is a synthesis of > classical and quantum physics. An old proposal is SED, Stochiastic Electrodynamics, which, if I understand it, is classical physics but with an enormous zeropoint sea of particles and fluctuations. Also, Willis Lamb was trying to create a physics which entirely lacked photons, but instead was based on EM waves, but with many little Classical effects added, usually ignored but instead brought to the front (such as perhaps my own favorite: wave-resonance being able to excite a nonlinear oscillator suddenly, across a threshold ...as if it had been struck by a tiny particle, yet it was entirely a wave phenomenon, as if Photoelectric Effect does not demonstrate QM after all.) Still, the 2-photon 180deg emission from positron annihilation ...hard to explain any of that Entaglement stuff. Must perhaps add many-worlds version of reality, to the particle-sea of SED theory. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon
William There extremely rarely is a two 511keV e+/e- decay signal seen. Its a special case that can only happen in a contained case. Free e+/e- annihilation usually is a 3 photon decay with <<0.01% being of 511keV... The 511keV decay signal is an old illusion, that triggered a completely wrong understanding of physics. J.W. On 02.05.2022 18:01, William Beaty wrote: Still, the 2-photon 180deg emission from positron annihilation ...hard to explain any of that Entaglement stuff. Must perhaps add many-worlds version of reality, to the particle-sea of SED theory. -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon
On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, H LV wrote: New research shows that laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon https://phys.org/news/2020-07-laser-spectral-linewidth-classical-physics-ph enomenon.html VERY cool! Perhaps this points to a new kind of physics which is a synthesis of classical and quantum physics. An old proposal is SED, Stochiastic Electrodynamics, which, if I understand it, is classical physics but with an enormous zeropoint sea of particles and fluctuations. Also, Willis Lamb was trying to create a physics which entirely lacked photons, but instead was based on EM waves, but with many little Classical effects added, usually ignored but instead brought to the front (such as perhaps my own favorite: wave-resonance being able to excite a nonlinear oscillator suddenly, across a threshold ...as if it had been struck by a tiny particle, yet it was entirely a wave phenomenon, as if Photoelectric Effect does not demonstrate QM after all.) Still, the 2-photon 180deg emission from positron annihilation ...hard to explain any of that Entaglement stuff. Must perhaps add many-worlds version of reality, to the particle-sea of SED theory. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 9:20 AM H LV wrote: > > New research shows that laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics > phenomenon > > https://phys.org/news/2020-07-laser-spectral-linewidth-classical-physics-phenomenon.html > quote > "As we have explained in this study, there is a simple, easy-to-understand > derivation of the laser spectral linewidth, and the underlying classical > physics proves the quantum-physics attempt of explaining the laser spectral > linewidth hopelessly incorrect. This result has fundamental consequences > for quantum physics." end quote > > Perhaps this points to a new kind of physics which is a synthesis of > classical and quantum physics. > > Harry > > In other words some aspects of physics are definitely local and while others are definitely non-local. Harry
