Re: [Vo]:Gamma radiation from proton-proton fusion

2017-08-31 Thread Axil Axil
Correction: Rossi now believes that proton decay powers the Sun should read Holmlid believes that proton decay powers the Sun On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/ >

Re: [Vo]:Gamma radiation from proton-proton fusion

2017-08-31 Thread Axil Axil
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#pone.0169895.ref007 In his latest article, Holmlid rejects fusion as too weak to power the energy output that he is seeing in his experiments. Holmlid states: "The origin of the particle signals observed here is clearly

Re: [Vo]:Gamma radiation from proton-proton fusion

2017-08-31 Thread Nigel Dyer
In fact I have unilaterally removed the offending gamma from the Wikipedia page. I dont expect it to return.  The only gamma rays that it continues correctly to mention are those associated with the annihilation of the positron with an electron. The Mark Davidson paper is very good.  I will

RE: [Vo]:Gamma radiation from proton-proton fusion

2017-08-31 Thread JonesBeene
Proton-proton fusion is of such low probability that it is almost a waste of time to think that it has relevance in the real world, despite the mainstream view. We see gamma radiation in stars with or without fusion (even Jupiter and the gas giants have lots of gamma emission) but this usually

Re: [Vo]:Gamma radiation from proton-proton fusion

2017-08-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 30 Aug 2017 14:15:30 -0400: Hi, Actually a half life of 14 billion years sounds like it's about the right order of magnitude for the power output of the Sun, given the number of particles that are present. (Note that most of the energy comes from the

Re: [Vo]:Gamma radiation from proton-proton fusion

2017-08-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Nigel Dyer's message of Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:22:51 +0100: Hi, >In the text of the wikipedia page about proton proton fusion > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction > >It says that in the first stage, when two protons fuse, a gamma ray >proton is produced. 

Re: [Vo]:Gamma radiation from proton-proton fusion

2017-08-30 Thread Axil Axil
Two particles are created, the positron and the neutrino. Is it possible that the excess energy (0.42MeV) from this first stage goes into into producing movement(aka kinetic energy) in one and/or both of those new particles? By the way, PP fusion inside the core of the Sun has a cross section of