Re: [Vo]:Air Flow Calorimetry

2014-10-13 Thread pjvannoorden
the control- and active cell it can be detected. Peter From: Steve High Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:13 AM To: Vortex Subject: [Vo]:Air Flow Calorimetry Well I spent an hour or so in the HVAC world and sure enough Jed was right. Apparently the standard for measuring air flow in a round

Re: [Vo]:Air Flow Calorimetry

2014-10-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
you have to add to the losses of the turbine, the losses of the battery required, (the rest , electronics can be efficient) that may be 50% from in to out later maybe supercapacitor/nonsupercapacitor can help, or freewheel? 2014-10-13 2:08 GMT+02:00 Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com:

[Vo]:Air Flow Calorimetry

2014-10-12 Thread Steve High
As a non-technical person who greatly enjoys and respects this forum I am extremely cautious about opening new threads, so I have thought long and hard about this and I think the time is right. I hope the brain trust here will take a little time to answer. My question: why would this

Re: [Vo]:Air Flow Calorimetry

2014-10-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have had wretched experiences trying to do air-flow calorimetery. It is done by HVAC installers on a daily basis, so it does work, although I gather it is imprecise. I know it is hard to do right. The hard parts are determining the flow rate of air, and finding the temperature, which varies in

Re: [Vo]:Air Flow Calorimetry

2014-10-12 Thread Lennart Thornros
I am probably naive. However, it seems to me that if one design a loop back, an absolute measurement can be had. Once the Ecat is at full operation let the ecat generate steam and run a turbine with an electrical generator. As the COP for the turbine is well known exact knowledge can be determined

Re: [Vo]:Air Flow Calorimetry

2014-10-12 Thread Robert Lynn
no small rankine turbines or steam engines are that efficient. Best bet would be a stirling engine from qnergy http://www.qnergy.com/. About 3kW output and 30-35% efficient and designed to feed into the grid. If run in some un-prepared location like a lecture hall or foyer that would make a

[Vo]:Air Flow Calorimetry

2014-10-12 Thread Steve High
Well I spent an hour or so in the HVAC world and sure enough Jed was right. Apparently the standard for measuring air flow in a round duct involves checking wind speed in 18 locations along three separate axes, which is probably not practical when you are trying to assess air flow in a dynamic

Re: [Vo]:Air Flow Calorimetry

2014-10-12 Thread Robert Lynn
a tall well insulated chimney would sort that out, and flow velocity (and hence mass flow) in chimney can be accurately inferred from temperature given column pressure differential caused by air density difference. Calorimetry with just two thermocouples to measure inlet and outlet air temps! On