At 10:13 PM 8/10/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Alright, so Defkalion has a Kernel for a limited time, while the
catalyzer lasts. And it seems to me that catalyzer is something they
apply to nickel powder. Anyway, since they once they tested a
thousand devices simultaneously and Defkalion is still a
What do you think the catalyst is at this time?
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Another Defkalion statement on PESN
Ever since one of our number “noone noone” posted this
http://www.mail
Ever since one of our number “noone noone” posted this
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg49026.html
I have been concerned that I have let Rossi’s secret out of the bag to his
detriment and that secret has been used by Defkalion Green Technologies to
reverse engineer Rossi’s
Not really. They probably have enough for testing. A few kilograms is enough
for a few hundreds of continuous tests for months. This is why Defkalion is
really not that desperate.
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Alright, so Defkalion has a Kernel for a limited time, while the catalyzer
> lasts. And it seems to me that catalyzer is something they apply to nickel
> powder. Anyway, since they once they tested a thousand devices
> simultaneously and Defkalion is still a young company, it
Alright, so Defkalion has a Kernel for a limited time, while the catalyzer
lasts. And it seems to me that catalyzer is something they apply to nickel
powder. Anyway, since they once they tested a thousand devices
simultaneously and Defkalion is still a young company, it is likely they
still have a
Daniel Rocha wrote:
It doesn't make much sense to me to equalize core and catalyzer.
I mean in the context of this discussion we have been treating the two to
mean the same thing. Defkalkion calls core+catalyzer a "kernel."
> The core is just what Rossi attempted to explain in his patent
>
It doesn't make much sense to me to equalize core and catalyzer. The core is
just what Rossi attempted to explain in his patent application. Catalyzer,
as I understand, is an additive to the fuel or part of the fuel. And, as I
understand, they could have enough fuel catalyzer to sustain the
experi
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Or that both Rossi and Defkalion have proprietary cores but only Rossi has
> the catalyzer.
>
In this discussion "core" and "catalyzer" mean the same thing. They mean the
cell at the heart of the reactor which is filled with nickel powder,
hydrogen, and some other mystery ing
Hi,
On 10-8-2011 23:37, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I meant that Rossi could have taken a core to Defkalion for internal
tests in a Hyperion rig -- NOT the government tests -- but not left
it with them.
This would allow the following two statements to be true:
R: Nobody has
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I meant that Rossi could have taken a core to Defkalion for internal
tests in a Hyperion rig -- NOT the government tests -- but not left it
with them.
This would allow the following two statements to be true:
R: Nobody has an eCat
D: We measured 6-20x energy gain
Tha
Or that both Rossi and Defkalion have proprietary cores but only Rossi has
the catalyzer.
2011/8/10 Alan J Fletcher
> At 01:46 PM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
> Alan J Fletcher wrote:
>>
>>> Rossi could have hand-carried a core to Defkalion, run tests, and then
>>> taken it way with him.
>>
At 01:46 PM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Rossi could have hand-carried a core to Defkalion, run tests, and
then taken it way with him.
No regulator or government agency in the EU, the U.S. or Japan would
allow that. It is unthinkable. These organizations have many fau
Jed, there is a way to reconcile everything. Defkalion designed the Hyperion
differently from Rossi's, the core exactly like Rossi's but they don't have
the recipe for the catalyzer. So, all they have are units that can still
work for a few months with the last loading of the catalyzer. They can st
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Defkalion could have submitted a system with a dummy core for Greek
qualification (hydrogen system etc), but that seems a bit pointless.
Rossi could have hand-carried a core to Defkalion, run tests, and then
taken it way with him.
No regulator or government agency in th
Yep, Susan Gipp, you have a grip on the reality here...
Defkalion now stage-managing hour by hour -- perhaps their technicians
are running simulations on their magic catalyzt deprived devices to
verify the same kind of null results that actually ensued from the
publicized Rossi demos...
Within m
To be honest would be better to say:
*No one in the world holds any (working) E-Cat, even us, so far.*
2011/8/10 Alan J Fletcher
> At 11:05 AM 8/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
>
> http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/
>
>
> Andrea Rossi
> August 10th, 20
At 11:05 AM 8/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/
Andrea Rossi
August 10th, 2011 at 4:02 AM
Dear Luke Mortensen:
No one in the world holds any E-Cat, but us, so far.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hard to well if it's actually
conf
>From the link:
"
Statement II
*We received the following from Symeon Tsalikoglou of Defkalion Green
Technologies on August 10, 2011 4:13 AM MST.*
Dear Sterling Allan,
In the link below you include a post from passi22 blog regarding an
anonymous email from inside Defkalion.
http://pesn.com/201
http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/
Sorry if it's already here ... I looked for it.
Hard to well if it's actually conflicting with what Rossi as said
(technically).
They say it's built AROUND the core (not that they have one), AND that
they have (are?)
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