Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: > The first article says: >> <> bias . >> >> > > Well at least they aren't using the scathing term pathological science. >> > > And for that I am grateful and thusly do not use the term 'cognitive > dissonance'. :) >

Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:02 PM H LV wrote: > The first article says: > < bias . >> > > Well at least they aren't using the scathing term pathological science. > And for that I am grateful and thusly do not use the term 'cognitive dissonance'.

Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-29 Thread H LV
The first article says: . >> Well at least they aren't using the scathing term pathological science. Harry On Tue, May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM Jed Rothwell Note there are two other articles in Nature about the Google experiment. > Both of them

RE: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-29 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
986> for Windows 10 From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 7:47:17 AM To: Vortex Subject: Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019 Alain Sepeda mailto:alain.sep...@gmail.com>> wrote: By the way, f

Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: By the way, from what you read about the work of that team, was failure > predictable ? > I do not think they are finished, so it should not be called a failure yet. They probably did not achieve high loading. See this interview with one of the authors:

Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
I think this paper is weak tea. The editorials accompanying it are pretty awful. On the other hand, as they say in show business, any publicity is good publicity. People reading *Nature* may ask themselves: Why did they publish a paper along with three editorials attacking it? Why are they so

Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-29 Thread Alain Sepeda
By the way, from what you read about the work of that team, was failure predictable ? do you know if they contacted experienced actors of the domain ? Did they test fuel from other team (like the Japanese, or IH scientists?) What I have seen is usual hate speech by Nature, and great enthusiasm

Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Note there are two other articles in Nature about the Google experiment. Both of them insufferable bullshit: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01675-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01683-9

Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is something hilarious about the Nature webpage for this paper. Look at Reference 1. They just couldn't help themselves! 1. Fleischmann, M. & Pons, S. Electrochemically induced nuclear fusion of deuterium. *J. Electroanal. Chem. Interfacial Electrochem*. 261, 301–308 (1989). Article that

[Vo]:Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019

2019-05-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Berlinguette, C.P., et al., Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion. Nature, 2019 DOI https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1256-6 Abstract The 1989 claim of ‘cold fusion’ was publicly heralded as the future of clean energy generation. However, subsequent failures to reproduce the effect