Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-17 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Thomas, Do you have a link or name to this firm you referred to below? Richard Thomas wrote, I've been reading a business plan involving trapping CO2 and incorporating it into various alcohols and plant oils which will be used as fuel. The process involves Fe and Cu salts. I've been unab

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-17 Thread Jones Beene
For those who did not read the complete Kanzius/ Roy pdf file (recommended), on the burning of salt water - it is now available from Harti's site (has some nice images): http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get16 Given that there is a correlation between this thread and the Kanzius

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-17 Thread thomas malloy
Jones Beene wrote: --- Richard, Tell us... the next act in the drama... Well, it's no secret that if a mild thermo-chemical reaction can pull this off (unaided) in a simple warm Anyone ready to check-out Death Valley in the summer ? There is definitely a method to your madn

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-17 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 17 May 2008 07:15:38 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >--- Robin > >> One is forced to wonder where all the Oxygen >went my guess would be that it combined with the >Fe to form Fe2O3 (rust). > >They state that the iron is a "catalyst" - not a >reactant. If tru

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-17 Thread OrionWorks
>From R C Macaulay: > Howdy Jones and Robin, > > NACL plays the key role in your observations simply because of it's > abundance. A key clue to how salt was formed in such mass may be by studying > potash as well as soda. > In SE New Mexico there are deep potash mines between Hobbs and Artesia. To

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-17 Thread Jones Beene
There is a deep geologic and natural mystery in that "elbow" of the periodic table where elements 17, 18, and 19 reside. Fred Sparber has often mentioned the various anomalies found here - wrt argon and potassium; but chlorine is an integral part of that same mystery, too. IMHO one of the best ke

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-17 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones and Robin, NACL plays the key role in your observations simply because of it's abundance. A key clue to how salt was formed in such mass may be by studying potash as well as soda. In SE New Mexico there are deep potash mines between Hobbs and Artesia. To me these potash deposits ar

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-17 Thread Jones Beene
--- Robin > One is forced to wonder where all the Oxygen went my guess would be that it combined with the Fe to form Fe2O3 (rust). They state that the iron is a "catalyst" - not a reactant. If true, a catalyst does not participate in the reaction. When Algae and bacteria use an iron or mang

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-16 Thread R C Macaulay
- Original Message - From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 16 May 2008 07:45:06 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Now down to the nitty-gritt

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-16 Thread R C Macaulay
- Original Message - From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 16 May 2008 07:45:06 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Now down to the nitty-gritt

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-16 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 16 May 2008 07:45:06 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >Now down to the nitty-gritty. Here is the recent >journal article (letter) of interest (from Taiwan): > >http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/orlef7/2007/9/i10/abs/ol070597o.html > >"Hydrothermal Reactions

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-16 Thread Jones Beene
One of the better things about Vortex is looking back through the archives. Sometimes this can be embarrassing (i.e. consistent misspellings and other hasty-puddin' mistakes by moi) but at other times, one is struck by the clarity of old insight - most of which was never acted-upon (at least not t

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-16 Thread Jones Beene
--- Richard, > Tell us... the next act in the drama... Well, it's no secret that if a mild thermo-chemical reaction can pull this off (unaided) in a simple warm refluxing situation, even if it is at a low yield-- then it is very reasonable to believe that single cell organisms (GM or natural) sho

Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-16 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, Tiawan and phenols... a lot to digest for today, perhaps a small glass of water with a dash of bi-carb would help my digestion. You are going somewhere with this post and I am waiting with " baited breath".. which my mother said was helped if I brushed my teeth with salt and soda

[Vo]:Biomimicry redux

2008-05-16 Thread Jones Beene
Hey Col. Cathcart and other vorticians, Are you ready for a major, major development in the field of baking ? Ha, here's the "catch" ... and it reads more like biomimicry "reflux" than "redux". Begin with baking soda. Yup. Good-old sodium bicarbonate- NaHCO3- which is the natural salt found wor