Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-27 Thread Kyle Mcallister
Vortex, This discussion over whether or not Shawyer's theory is correct or not is pointless and the wrong subject. You can prove or disprove anything if you have enough mathematical and speculative handwaving to say what you want to say. The two points that SHOULD be very carefully considered

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-26 Thread Harry Veeder
a person on the ship knows the shore was not set in motion by the wind. Harry - Original Message - From: leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:24 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit if you are choosing that ball as a frame of refference

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-26 Thread leaking pen
, September 25, 2008 4:24 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit if you are choosing that ball as a frame of refference, then that would be true. The point of relativity is that there is no central frame of refference, just what you choose. its not conceit, its reality. On Thu, Sep 25

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-26 Thread Harry Veeder
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit but, wind patterns DO alter rotation, to a degree. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the pool players won't fall over simply because you choose the ball as your frame of reference throughout

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-26 Thread Harry Veeder
pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit but, wind patterns DO alter rotation, to a degree. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the pool players won't fall over simply because you choose the ball as your frame of reference

[Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-25 Thread OrionWorks
I bet this device look familiar to a few vorts! See: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/09/chinese-buildin.html Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
OrionWorks wrote: I bet this device look familiar to a few vorts! See: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/09/chinese-buildin.html Uh -- not me; looks sort of like an antique picture tube, maybe, but I don't recognize it. I notice Emdrive hasn't gotten as far as running a spell

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-25 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:18 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit OrionWorks wrote: I bet this device look familiar to a few vorts! See: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/09

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-25 Thread leaking pen
PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:18 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit OrionWorks wrote: I bet this device look familiar to a few vorts! See: http://blog.wired.com/defense

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 25, 2008, at 6:45 AM, OrionWorks wrote: See: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/09/chinese-buildin.html Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks Thanks for posting. I'm glad to see the dream lives on. Best regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-25 Thread Harry Veeder
, September 25, 2008 12:43 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit Yes. It is more the opposite, but every step you take, you push the Earth, and she pushes back at you. The Earth pushes a hell of a lot harder, but you DO have an effect on the motion of the Earth, however infintesimal

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit

2008-09-25 Thread leaking pen
, 2008 12:43 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chinese building space drive unit Yes. It is more the opposite, but every step you take, you push the Earth, and she pushes back at you. The Earth pushes a hell of a lot harder, but you DO have an effect on the motion of the Earth, however infintesimal, with each