Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-25 Thread H LV
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:08 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > Woah! I didn't expect to see so much commentary on this particular > thread. I had to re-subscribe a while longer. > > > > Harry, the link you supplied on Feynman's Lost Lecture on Motions

RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
My math background, particularly use of proper math terminology, is somewhat elementary at times. Recently, I have taken several refresher courses in calculus. It's been an interesting experience. I was not familiar with the term "Laplace–Runge–Lenz vectors". I may have shorthanded the term,

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
Yes! ^_^'" 2016-05-24 21:30 GMT-03:00 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net>: > "LRL" = "LGL"? > > I assume you miss keyed "R" as "G". > > From: Daniel Rocha >

RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
"LRL" = "LGL"? I assume you miss keyed "R" as "G". From: Daniel Rocha > I posted above, but, here it goes again :) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%E2%80%93Runge%E2%80%93Lenz_vector#Derivation_of_the_Kepler_orbits

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
I posted above, but, here it goes again :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%E2%80%93Runge%E2%80%93Lenz_vector#Derivation_of_the_Kepler_orbits 2016-05-24 20:37 GMT-03:00 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net>: > What does "LGL" stand for? > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ

RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
What does "LGL" stand for? >From Daniel: > I have other projects! But if I have to suggest anything is to try to > find Kepler's law using LGL vectors in the simplest way.

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
I have other projects! But if I have to suggest anything is to try to find Kepler's law using LGL vectors in the simplest way. 2016-05-24 19:08 GMT-03:00 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net>: > > You're working on a third way? >

RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Woah! I didn't expect to see so much commentary on this particular thread. I had to re-subscribe a while longer. Harry, the link you supplied on Feynman's Lost Lecture on Motions around the Sun did the trick for me. I finally get what your animated GIF was trying to tell me. I like what

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
I'm sorry, orbits. You could try to find the law using it.

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
There is also the LRL vector, which can be used to derive Kepler's law in 3 lines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%E2%80%93Runge%E2%80%93Lenz_vector#Derivation_of_the_Kepler_orbits

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread H LV
Yes, it is possible to begin with kepler's laws and the law of inertia and derive the force law of gravity or to begin with the force law of gravity and the law of inertia and derive Kepler's laws. I am working on third way. Harry On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Rocha

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
Hmm! Gary also derived using the original method, so it is good to see both approaches and how algebra makes life so much easier than just using geometric algebra. In Newton's time, though, geometric algebra was widely teach, more so than algebra, including theorems about ellipsis which are not as

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
Newton's derivation of the force of gravity from Kepler's law of ellipsis is explained nicely in this series of lectures: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB3D1F0F64E98FDBF Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread H LV
;> orionworks.com >> www.zazzle.com/orionworks >> stevenvincentjohnson.bandcamp.com >> >> >> >> >> >> From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] >> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:28 PM >> To: vortex-

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread H LV
hnson.bandcamp.com > > > > > > From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:28 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes > > Harry, > > Thanks for sharing your work on orbital

RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionworks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks stevenvincentjohnson.bandcamp.com From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes Harry, Thanks for sharing your work on orbital

RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
.com From: H LV [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:43 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes Steven, I know that in the past you have wondered if the second focus of an ellipse could have any role to play in the determination of orbits, s

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-23 Thread H LV
Steven, I know that in the past you have wondered if the second focus of an ellipse could have any role to play in the determination of orbits, since it plays no role in Kepler laws or in Newton's derivation of Kepler laws. Well a few years ago, I invented a geometrical method in which the

[Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-22 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
I've been retired now for almost 18 months. I'm happy to report I'm not bored. My on-going Kepler research project continues to consume much of my quality time. But alas, summer is just around the corner, and there seems to be a spate of honey-do projects that are about to consume a good chunk of