Re: [Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 16 Jun 2023 16:38:57 -0400: Hi Jed, [snip] I think this pretty much proves your point that AIs have no "World view". Not only does it not know what "height" means (or anything else for that matter), but also appears to have confused "terminal" with "electrode". >Robin wrote: > >First, you should ask yourself why they would give a battery a height of >> about 30 mm, if the electrodes are only 4.8 to >> 5.6 mm in height. >> > >It does seem odd, now that you mention it. There seems to be confusion >about "height." This site says: > >The minimum height of the positive terminal must be 0.8 mm while its >maximum diameter can be 3.8 mm. The minimum diameter of the flat negative >terminal is 4.3 mm. > >https://www.electronicshub.org/aa-vs-aaa-batteries/ > >Obviously, the electrodes are as long as the case: > >https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/what-is-in-a-battery Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
Robin wrote: First, you should ask yourself why they would give a battery a height of > about 30 mm, if the electrodes are only 4.8 to > 5.6 mm in height. > It does seem odd, now that you mention it. There seems to be confusion about "height." This site says: The minimum height of the positive terminal must be 0.8 mm while its maximum diameter can be 3.8 mm. The minimum diameter of the flat negative terminal is 4.3 mm. https://www.electronicshub.org/aa-vs-aaa-batteries/ Obviously, the electrodes are as long as the case: https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/what-is-in-a-battery
Re: [Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:00:06 -0400: Hi, [snip] >A lithium AAA battery electrode is: > > - Diameter: 10.5 to 11.6 millimeters > - Height: 4.8 to 5.6 millimeters > - Positive electrode surface area: 0.1 to 0.2 square centimeters > - Negative electrode surface area: 0.2 to 0.3 square centimeters First, you should ask yourself why they would give a battery a height of about 30 mm, if the electrodes are only 4.8 to 5.6 mm in height. If the diameter is about 1 cm, then the circumference is about 3 cm, multiplied by a height of about 1/2 cm, gives an area of about 1.5 sq. cm, not a fraction of a sq. cm. However, I suspect that the concept of area is a bit irrelevant at the atomic scale in a battery, as the ions actually migrate into one of the electrodes in a Lithium ion battery IIRC. In short, I wouldn't trust these figures. [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
There was an incident recently at the National Eating Disorder Association (NEDA) website, in which ChatGPT gave bad advice and was turned off: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eating-disorder-helpline-chatbot-disabled/ Based on my experience setting up the Bot at LENR-CANR.org, I expect some technical glitch caused the bot to malfunction and give out the wrong information for anorexia. I expect they uploaded the help-desk files at NEDA, and those files probably have the right information, but the bot did not find it. A lot can go wrong during setup. The data has to be structured in certain ways, and it has to be in the correct format. At LENR-CANR.org a glitch caused the Bot to lose half of the files. You have to understand and adjust various parameters such as the "AI temperature." Like all newly emerging software, ChatBots are unreliable and prone to glitches. There are no proper user manuals or installation instructions. A bot should be tested extensively before releasing it to the public. Especially before releasing it to patients who are worried and vulnerable. The larger question is: Should we be using Bots to hand out medical information and other potentially harmful information? I say yes, we should. It does not seem any different from posting web pages with medical advice, such as this one about anorexia at the Mayo Clinic: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/anorexia-nervosa/symptoms-causes/syc-20353591 Then again, maybe we should not use Bots just yet. Two reasons: 1. They do not work well (as I said); 2. People have the mistaken impression they are intelligent, or even sentient. People may have more faith in what a Bot says than what is written in an ordinary web page at Mayo Clinic, or in a library book about diet and health. In a few years, people will be used to ChatBots and they will know that a Bot is just a convenient way to find and summarize what you want to know. They are not omniscient super-intelligent beings. Bots are extremely useful for many purposes. The other day I wanted to know how many watt-hours an AAA battery produces, and how big the electrodes are. The Bard Chatbot told me: A lithium AAA battery electrode is: - Diameter: 10.5 to 11.6 millimeters - Height: 4.8 to 5.6 millimeters - Positive electrode surface area: 0.1 to 0.2 square centimeters - Negative electrode surface area: 0.2 to 0.3 square centimeters Output is 2500 mAh or 4.5 Wh. It was faster and more convenient than scrolling through Google search finds. I assume it is right. I should check, though. If it was for a serious purpose, I would check.
Re: [Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
Reminds me of this short vid from Southpark. ;-) ChatGPT, dude! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QGKq8NHbPAY Harry On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 12:01 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > https://futurism.com/neoscope/microsoft-doctors-chatgpt-patients >
Re: [Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
Bet there was less athletes' foot then. :) On Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 12:18 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > Yikes! That's creepy. It is an abuse of AI technology. > > When something new is invented, people tend to use it in all kinds of > ways. Later, they realize that some of these uses are inappropriate. For > example, they used x-ray to measure people's feet in shoe stores. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe-fitting_fluoroscope > >
Re: [Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
Yikes! That's creepy. It is an abuse of AI technology. When something new is invented, people tend to use it in all kinds of ways. Later, they realize that some of these uses are inappropriate. For example, they used x-ray to measure people's feet in shoe stores. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe-fitting_fluoroscope
[Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
https://futurism.com/neoscope/microsoft-doctors-chatgpt-patients
