Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"

2023-05-30 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
They might come up with $6M for thermal control inside satellites. On 5/30/23, MSF wrote: > We're digressing from the subject at hand, but it allows me some > self-indulgent nostalgia. > > As you are no doubt aware, even black paint made to coat the interior of > optical instruments has the

Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"

2023-05-30 Thread MSF
We're digressing from the subject at hand, but it allows me some self-indulgent nostalgia. As you are no doubt aware, even black paint made to coat the interior of optical instruments has the problem of a quite high glancing angle reflectance. My nanoporous aluminum film has a very low

Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"

2023-05-30 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
I no longer have the instruments to measure the absorptance and reflectance of materials; but, most optical instruments have black paint on the inside walls. A new source of very black films or sheets could be a useful addition because, over the years, the paint turns grey. On 5/30/23, MSF

Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"

2023-05-30 Thread MSF
I haven't the equipment or the time to measure the degree and spectrum of the "blackness". Suffice it to say, you can still see a very dim spot if you shine a variety of lasers of different wavelengths onto the surface. Naturally, the substrate, PET film, heats up and burns when you do this. I

Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"

2023-05-30 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
depending on its degree and spectrum of "blackness" (and cost?), it could have many applications. Did it retain its properties as the oxide grew? On 5/29/23, MSF wrote: > Thanks. That's an informative analysis > > The nanoporous aluminum layer I made was approx. 400 nm thick. It could be > made

Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"

2023-05-29 Thread MSF
Thanks. That's an informative analysis The nanoporous aluminum layer I made was approx. 400 nm thick. It could be made thicker or thinner as required. I haven't had the setup to make this stuff for quite some time, but I'm tempted to do it again. I was making it in 600 mm square sheets, but it

Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"

2023-05-29 Thread Terry Blanton
Speaking of Randell, has he yet produced a product for the millions invested? On Mon, May 29, 2023, 4:25 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to MSF's message of Mon, 29 May 2023 18:48:52 +: > Hi, > > If you follow the link to the original article, then download the > supporting materials pdf, the

Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"

2023-05-29 Thread Robin
In reply to MSF's message of Mon, 29 May 2023 18:48:52 +: Hi, If you follow the link to the original article, then download the supporting materials pdf, the original experiment reported at best about 250 nW / cm^2. This may not seem like much, but the layer could be made very thin,

[Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"

2023-05-29 Thread MSF
https://www.umass.edu/news/article/engineers-umass-amherst-harvest-abundant-clean-energy-thin-air-247 No energy density is given. So it might just be an interesting curiosity. This whole concept is of particular interest to me because of the nanoporous metals I was making several years ago. The