Re: [Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: Jed, it's a container, with all the walls at several hundred degrees C or higher; the bottom's in contact with the burner and is probably at about 1000 C. There is nothing inside the container except gas: Gaseous water. Yet you are claiming the

Re: [Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-10 Thread jwinter
Hi Jed, What you wrote is true when there is liquid water and steam together in a container - the combination cannot be heated to a temperature higher than 100 deg C without raising the pressure. However once all the liquid has turned to gas there is no longer any limit to what temperature

Re: [Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote: What you wrote is true when there is liquid water and steam together in a container - the combination cannot be heated to a temperature higher than 100 deg C without raising the pressure. However once all the liquid has turned to gas there is no longer any

Re: [Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-10 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/10/2011 08:28 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au mailto:jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote: What you wrote is true when there is liquid water and steam together in a container - the combination cannot be heated to a temperature higher than 100 deg C

[Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
I put some water in a teakettle. I put it on the stove. I turn on the burner, on high. After a while the water in the kettle boils. The steam from the boiling water entirely fills the kettle, pushing out *all* the air. The steam is rushing out the little hole (making an awful whistling

Re: [Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: The kettle is still filled with water vapor -- dry steam -- and the pressure inside is still 1 atmosphere, give or take a few millibars. What temperature do you suppose the steam inside the kettle is at? Could this be -- gasp! -- an example of

Re: [Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/09/2011 09:43 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com mailto:sa...@pobox.com wrote: (I'm going to put back a few lines you snipped, just for context clarity:) After a while, all the water boils to steam. The kettle is still filled with water vapor, of course! But

RE: [Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Iverson
Although this discussion thread is really a moot point after it was pointed out that there are 5 PLCs which are controlling the power to the resistive heaters, there's one thing I'd like to point out... Stephen said: Jed, it's a container, with all the walls at several hundred degrees C or

Re: [Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-09 Thread Charles Hope
pV = nRT. If the temperature increases, there must be a corresponding increase in the pressure or the volume (or both). In this tea kettle case, the volume of the steam increases right out the top of the kettle. But the temperature can increase above 100. Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 9,

[Vo]:Imagine TRANSDIMENSIONAL PHYSICS Unified Field Theory-technologies

2010-08-12 Thread Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan
*IMAGINE* TRANSDIMENSIONAL PHYSICS 'is' The Unified Field Theory and IS producing 'hard-techologies.' Imagine a virutal-infinity of AexoDarkEnergy-superplasma which is Hyperspace. Imagine its super-current('strings')-dynamics moving swiriling at SUPER ENERGY DENSITIES

FW: [Vo]:Imagine that!

2010-03-16 Thread Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan
@eskimo.com From: stev...@newenergytimes.com Subject: [Vo]:Imagine that! Can you believe this??? The Federal Communications Commission is proposing an ambitious 10-year plan that will reimagine the nation’s media and technology priorities by establishing high-speed Internet as the country’s

Re: [Vo]:Imagine that!

2010-03-14 Thread Harry Veeder
What will become of snail mail? :( From: Steven Krivit stev...@newenergytimes.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 2:55:44 PM Subject: [Vo]:Imagine that! Can you believe this??? The Federal Communications Commission is proposing an ambitious 10-year plan that will reimagine

Re: [Vo]:Imagine that!

2010-03-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: What will become of snail mail? :( Who uses it now? A book of 20 stamps lasts me 3 months. T

[Vo]:Imagine that!

2010-03-13 Thread Steven Krivit
Can you believe this??? The http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal_communications_commission/index.html?inline=nyt-orgFederal Communications Commission is proposing an ambitious 10-year plan that will reimagine the nation's media and technology priorities

Re: [Vo]:Imagine that!

2010-03-13 Thread Terry Blanton
It's called 'convergence'. All major corporations' enterprise networks already work this way. Voice, video and data are all on the same network. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergence_(telecommunications) It will happen. It's just a matter of when. T On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 2:55 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Imagine that!

2010-03-13 Thread Steven Krivit
Aha! That expains it. At 02:28 PM 3/13/2010, you wrote: It's called 'convergence'. All major corporations' enterprise networks already work this way. Voice, video and data are all on the same network. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergence_(telecommunications) It will happen. It's just

[Vo]: Imagine no Gasoline

2006-07-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
A Libertarian proposal to eliminate gasoline in 30 years: http://www.reason.com/rauch/071006.shtml - Jed

Re: [Vo]: Imagine no Gasoline

2006-07-10 Thread Edmund Storms
I think the word Libertarian is not a good description. This idea is about as conservative as they come. It uses the good old free enterprise system to its full advantage. People would be free to decide just how they could make the most money by using something besides gasoline. The process is

RE: [Vo]: Imagine no Gasoline

2006-07-10 Thread Rick Monteverde
I doubt we could do it without building a rash of new nukes. The hazards are pretty obvious, but I'm not sure it wouldn't be a bad idea now given the alternatives. R.

Re: [Vo]: Imagine no Gasoline

2006-07-10 Thread Harry Veeder
From the article: The nexus between oil and rogues is not happenstance. A growing literature suggests that oil wealth emboldens autocrats, fosters corruption, retards economic development, and undermines democratic accountability. Though Friedman is probably exaggerating when he posits that

Re: [Vo]: Imagine no Gasoline

2006-07-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: Corrupt and fascist regimes will always find some wealth to exploit. If not oil then diamonds or food or ... Some things are easier for corrupt people to exploit than others. Oil and diamonds happen to be particularly easy. Food can be grown anywhere with little capital,