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2021-12-30 Thread William Beaty
I'm using these below for detecting outdoor cat. Transmitter works at 50ft, but maybe not 50M. The 9V batt lasts for nearly a year. It's thermal-IR, but if non-ambient mail is falling right across it, probably it will trigger. Or, cut into the sensor and add a leaf-switch and resistor.

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2021-12-29 Thread Robin
In reply to MSF's message of Thu, 30 Dec 2021 00:32:28 +: Hi, [snip] > >On the other hand, you could go totally old school and use a coherer. The mail >deliverer might object to the long antenna on the mail box, but it could work. >Check out my favorite coherer link: >

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2021-12-29 Thread MSF
On the other hand, you could go totally old school and use a coherer. The mail deliverer might object to the long antenna on the mail box, but it could work. Check out my favorite coherer link: http://sparkbangbuzz.com/els/coherer-el.htm ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday,

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2021-12-29 Thread MSF
Very sad for the condition of the almost non-existent manufacturing sector of the U.S. economy. I'm in a manufacturing business and almost all of my suppliers are foreign. I've been ranting on for nearly 40 years about us giving away the store on manufacturing and have been mocked for it. The

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2021-12-29 Thread Jones Beene
Brilliant ... and (in general) such gadgets as solar powered motion detectors are such a bargain aren't they? Isn't it amazing how the level of affordable sophistication in relatively mundane products has increased - and at very low cost considering the  technology involved. The progress in

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2021-12-29 Thread MSF
The solution to your problem has likely already been built. It's the remote motion detector. You can buy these on ebay for around 20 dollars US. Just drop the motion detector in the mailbox and it triggers a really loud alarm on the receiving unit inside your house. I have used these in my back

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2021-12-29 Thread Robin
In reply to MSF's message of Wed, 29 Dec 2021 18:29:56 +: Hi, [snip] > >What's your goal? Is it to demonstrate how simple or clever such a thing could >be or do you have a practical result in mind? Do you want this to operate as a >remote switch or merely to show a record of the bit

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2021-12-29 Thread Robin
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 29 Dec 2021 11:57:08 -0500: Hi, [snip] >https://kotsanas.com/gb/exh.php?exhibit=1201001 > >:) This sounds like the origin of the concept behind Morse code/EBCDIC/ASCII. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

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2021-12-29 Thread MSF
What's your goal? Is it to demonstrate how simple or clever such a thing could be or do you have a practical result in mind? Do you want this to operate as a remote switch or merely to show a record of the bit transfer on the receiving end? ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday,

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2021-12-29 Thread Terry Blanton
https://kotsanas.com/gb/exh.php?exhibit=1201001 :)

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2021-12-28 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
Sound is still more reliable, easy to produce and receive, cheaper electronics involved and can carry more info if needed. You also don't need to focus it. Why not to go with this solution? On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 7:24 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 29 Dec 2021

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2021-12-28 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 29 Dec 2021 02:16:22 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] > Here's one to look at >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_telegraph > Actually I considered a mirror system, but it wouldn't work on cloudy days. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

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2021-12-28 Thread Robin
In reply to Giovanni Santostasi's message of Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:58:27 -0800: Hi, [snip] >Anyway, probably sound is the best and cheapest mean to transfer the info >on such a short distance (is the distance an open space or are there >buildings?). Open space. >It would be easy to create a

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2021-12-28 Thread Robin
In reply to Giovanni Santostasi's message of Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:51:41 -0800: Hi, [snip] >What is the rate of transfer of information? Only a single bit one time? No more than 1 bit / day. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

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2021-12-28 Thread Jones Beene
Here's one to look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_telegraph   Giovanni Santostasi wrote: What is the rate of transfer of information? Only a single bit one time?  On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 5:43 PM Robin wrote: In reply to  Giovanni Santostasi's message of Tue, 28 Dec 2021

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2021-12-28 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
Anyway, probably sound is the best and cheapest mean to transfer the info on such a short distance (is the distance an open space or are there buildings?). It would be easy to create a device that can separate sound based on frequency or loudness (Arduino hooked to a microphone). If it is only a

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2021-12-28 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
What is the rate of transfer of information? Only a single bit one time? On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 5:43 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Giovanni Santostasi's message of Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:35:35 > -0800: > Hi, > > Very inventive. :) However no human intervention possible. Method > preferably

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2021-12-28 Thread Robin
In reply to Giovanni Santostasi's message of Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:35:35 -0800: Hi, Very inventive. :) However no human intervention possible. Method preferably electronic. >An arrow with a message written on a piece of paper wrapped around the >arrow. 50 meters should be a relatively easy shot.

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2021-12-28 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
An arrow with a message written on a piece of paper wrapped around the arrow. 50 meters should be a relatively easy shot. Giovanni On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 5:23 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Robin's message of Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:21:14 +1100: > Hi, > > I should add that the transmitter has no

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2021-12-28 Thread Robin
In reply to Robin's message of Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:21:14 +1100: Hi, I should add that the transmitter has no mains connection thus may at best be battery powered. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

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2021-12-28 Thread Robin
Hi, I'm looking for an elegant, simple, cheap means of transmitting a single bit of information over a distance of 50 meters, without wires. Imaginative solutions sought. :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk