On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
When I queried DGT about comparing their products using glycol to AR's
use of diathermic oil, I got this response:
We do not wish to comment any further the differences between
products and any lab prototype, which are
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
On a related topic I have also been under the impression that Rossi
was NOT planning on producing steam as the final output product - only
hot water below the temperature of 100 C.
That is what he said months ago. Evidently he
From Jed:
On a related topic I have also been under the impression
that Rossi was NOT planning on producing steam as the final
output product - only hot water below the temperature of 100 C.
That is what he said months ago. Evidently he changed his mind.
It would be rather challenging to
Hello Steven,
I have seen evidence of a check valve at the output of the ECAT tested in
October. This would be expected if many units are to make a contribution to
the final steam output port. Indications are that it opens cleanly when the
pressure within the ECAT is around 2 bars. I am
Actually pretty easy, just parallel together 3-4 truck radiators or 10 car
radiators (quite cheap) with standard cooling fans on them and pump water
around with an open header tank.
Or spray hot water in air stream from a fan and collect it in a catch tank
for re-use (as thermal power stations
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
This does not bode well from my POV. Granted it is conceivable that
Rossi DOES have access to a fire hydrant's worth of flowing water, and
running that much water through his prototype is what he
Robert Lynn wrote:
Actually pretty easy, just parallel together 3-4 truck radiators or 10
car radiators (quite cheap) with standard cooling fans on them and
pump water around with an open header tank.
Wow. You are right. A large truck produces 425 hp, which is 316 kW. It
takes a lot more
Dennis Cravens pointed out to me that you do not need a fire hydrant
water main to do this test with water only, instead of steam. You can
use a heavy-duty pump and pump the water from a swimming pool, through
the device, and back to the swimming pool.
That is another clever idea which never
I wrote:
I guess you would do this as flow calorimetry where the inlet temperature
keeps rising. It is not generally a good idea let the inlet temperature
fluctuate, but in this case I guess you have to live with that.
I should point out that Dennis has in mind using the temperature of the
The power requirements for a large truck are enormous. Maybe Rossi's 1
Megawatt steam generator is not as powerful as we are thinking as it would
barely be capable of powering one of those trucks at full capacity(316 KW x 3).
I see that the latest 1 Megawatt BIG CAT will need a slight size
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_Big_Boy
I already posted a picture of the above as an example of a machine
that had thermal power of at least 10MW.
Those locomotives were made around 1940. They ran at 80mph max speed.
All locomotives of the Big Boy model worked for at least 20 years,
Terry,
you mean this?
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg53062.html
mic
2011/10/19 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
This does not bode well from my POV. Granted it is
Thanks again for the information.
Didn't these just dissipate heat by venting the steam to the atmosphere?
That seems wasteful.
-Original Message-
From: Michele Comitini [mailto:michele.comit...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:33 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
Probably a Freudian slip but I wrote:
There is a reason why people nowadays demand ultrahigh-tech
test-everything-to-the-n'th degree before you turn on the first time,
and OSHA rules galore. It is a conspiracy to prevent innovation.
I meant it is NOT a conspiracy to prevent innovation. That
Michele Comitini wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_Big_Boy
I already posted a picture of the above as an example of a machine
that had thermal power of at least 10MW.
Those locomotives were made around 1940. They ran at 80mph max speed. . . .
Sure. No one disputes that
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry,
you mean this?
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg53062.html
Yes! He said he would use diathermic oil. This seems to be common in
Italy with several patents held by Italian inventors.
http://www.youreporter.it/foto_Incendio_alla_centrale_elettrica_foto_dei_pompieri_1_1
That electric transformer contained diathermic oil!
I know it is not easy to handle as it can burn as any mineral oil.
mic
2011/10/20 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:38 PM,
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.youreporter.it/foto_Incendio_alla_centrale_elettrica_foto_dei_pompieri_1_1
That electric transformer contained diathermic oil!
I know it is not easy to handle as it can burn as any mineral oil.
Yes,
2011/10/19 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
I should point out that Dennis has in mind using the temperature of the
water in the swimming pool, rather than the flow Delta T.
That seems tricky to me because the test will run for many hours and it is
I do not believe that megawatt
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