Re: [Vo]:Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of nature
Here is a more thorough discussion of the g-2 Fermi lab result as well as another unusual finding at LHCb. Muons appear in both experiments although each is measuring something different. NEWS: What's up with Muons? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBzn4o4z5Bk Harry On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 11:12 AM H LV wrote: > This article isn't giddy about the discrepancy. > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang > /2021/04/08/why-you-should-doubt-new-physics-from-the-latest-muon > -g-2-results/?sh=2317145b6c4b > > It seems there are two ways to calculate g-2. The older way is a more > indirect method that uses other experimental results. The newer way is > completely theory driven and gives results which are closer to the Fermi > Lab results. > > > Harry > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 9:12 PM Jones Beene wrote: > >> It is possible that whatever it is Cambridge may have found relative to >> muons also relates to surprisingly efficient muon production in the >> Holmlid/Norront reactor... apparently there is a mystery particle which >> affects muons in a previously unknown way ? >> >> BTW from their site, Norront have 3 muon reactors working in Norway and >> one in Sweden. >> >> Things are getting interesting... >> >> This whole UDD > muon thing may be near, or even gone past the proverbial >> "tipping point"... when we look back on it in a couple of years. >> >> Jones >> >> >> H LV wrote: >> >> PBS Space Time >> Why the Muon g-2 Results Are So Exciting! >> https://youtu.be/O4Ko7NW2yQo >> >> Harry >> >> Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of natur >> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/56643677 >> >> quotes: >> >> There is currently a one in a 40,000 chance that the result could be a >> statistical fluke - equating to a statistical level of confidence described >> as 4.1 sigma. >> A level of 5 sigma, or a one in 3.5 million chance of the observation >> being a coincidence, is needed to claim a discovery. >> >> Prof Ben Allanach, from Cambridge University, who was not involved with >> the latest effort, said: "My Spidey sense is tingling and telling me that >> this is going to be real. >> >> The Muon g-2 experiment involves sending the particles around a 14-metre >> ring and then applying a magnetic field. Under the current laws of physics, >> encoded in the Standard Model, this should make the muons wobble at a >> certain rate. >> >> Instead, the scientists found that muons wobbled at a faster rate than >> expected. This might be caused by a force of nature that's completely new >> to science. >> >> Harry >> >> >> >>
Re: [Vo]:Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of nature
This article isn't giddy about the discrepancy. https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang /2021/04/08/why-you-should-doubt-new-physics-from-the-latest-muon -g-2-results/?sh=2317145b6c4b It seems there are two ways to calculate g-2. The older way is a more indirect method that uses other experimental results. The newer way is completely theory driven and gives results which are closer to the Fermi Lab results. Harry On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 9:12 PM Jones Beene wrote: > It is possible that whatever it is Cambridge may have found relative to > muons also relates to surprisingly efficient muon production in the > Holmlid/Norront reactor... apparently there is a mystery particle which > affects muons in a previously unknown way ? > > BTW from their site, Norront have 3 muon reactors working in Norway and > one in Sweden. > > Things are getting interesting... > > This whole UDD > muon thing may be near, or even gone past the proverbial > "tipping point"... when we look back on it in a couple of years. > > Jones > > > H LV wrote: > > PBS Space Time > Why the Muon g-2 Results Are So Exciting! > https://youtu.be/O4Ko7NW2yQo > > Harry > > Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of natur > > https://www.bbc.com/news/56643677 > > quotes: > > There is currently a one in a 40,000 chance that the result could be a > statistical fluke - equating to a statistical level of confidence described > as 4.1 sigma. > A level of 5 sigma, or a one in 3.5 million chance of the observation > being a coincidence, is needed to claim a discovery. > > Prof Ben Allanach, from Cambridge University, who was not involved with > the latest effort, said: "My Spidey sense is tingling and telling me that > this is going to be real. > > The Muon g-2 experiment involves sending the particles around a 14-metre > ring and then applying a magnetic field. Under the current laws of physics, > encoded in the Standard Model, this should make the muons wobble at a > certain rate. > > Instead, the scientists found that muons wobbled at a faster rate than > expected. This might be caused by a force of nature that's completely new > to science. > > Harry > > > >
Re: [Vo]:Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of nature
It is possible that whatever it is Cambridge may have found relative to muons also relates to surprisingly efficient muon production in the Holmlid/Norront reactor... apparently there is a mystery particle which affects muons in a previously unknown way ? BTW from their site, Norront have 3 muon reactors working in Norway and one in Sweden. Things are getting interesting... This whole UDD > muon thing may be near, or even gone past the proverbial "tipping point"... when we look back on it in a couple of years. Jones H LV wrote: PBS Space Time Why the Muon g-2 Results Are So Exciting! https://youtu.be/O4Ko7NW2yQo Harry Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of natur https://www.bbc.com/news/56643677 quotes: There is currently a one in a 40,000 chance that the result could be a statistical fluke - equating to a statistical level of confidence described as 4.1 sigma. A level of 5 sigma, or a one in 3.5 million chance of the observation being a coincidence, is needed to claim a discovery. Prof Ben Allanach, from Cambridge University, who was not involved with the latest effort, said: "My Spidey sense is tingling and telling me that this is going to be real. The Muon g-2 experiment involves sending the particles around a 14-metre ring and then applying a magnetic field. Under the current laws of physics, encoded in the Standard Model, this should make the muons wobble at a certain rate. Instead, the scientists found that muons wobbled at a faster rate than expected. This might be caused by a force of nature that's completely new to science.Harry
Re: [Vo]:Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of nature
PBS Space Time Why the Muon g-2 Results Are So Exciting! https://youtu.be/O4Ko7NW2yQo Harry On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 10:04 AM H LV wrote: > Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of nature > > https://www.bbc.com/news/56643677 > > quotes: > > There is currently a one in a 40,000 chance that the result could be a > statistical fluke - equating to a statistical level of confidence described > as 4.1 sigma. > A level of 5 sigma, or a one in 3.5 million chance of the observation > being a coincidence, is needed to claim a discovery. > > Prof Ben Allanach, from Cambridge University, who was not involved with > the latest effort, said: "My Spidey sense is tingling and telling me that > this is going to be real. > > The Muon g-2 experiment involves sending the particles around a 14-metre > ring and then applying a magnetic field. Under the current laws of physics, > encoded in the Standard Model, this should make the muons wobble at a > certain rate. > > Instead, the scientists found that muons wobbled at a faster rate than > expected. This might be caused by a force of nature that's completely new > to science. > > Harry > > > >
[Vo]:Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of nature
Muons: 'Strong' evidence found for a new force of nature https://www.bbc.com/news/56643677 quotes: There is currently a one in a 40,000 chance that the result could be a statistical fluke - equating to a statistical level of confidence described as 4.1 sigma. A level of 5 sigma, or a one in 3.5 million chance of the observation being a coincidence, is needed to claim a discovery. Prof Ben Allanach, from Cambridge University, who was not involved with the latest effort, said: "My Spidey sense is tingling and telling me that this is going to be real. The Muon g-2 experiment involves sending the particles around a 14-metre ring and then applying a magnetic field. Under the current laws of physics, encoded in the Standard Model, this should make the muons wobble at a certain rate. Instead, the scientists found that muons wobbled at a faster rate than expected. This might be caused by a force of nature that's completely new to science. Harry
