Re: [Vo]:New vaporizing effect discovered

2024-04-28 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach

Sorry!

This is a kidding set of e-mails. Photons did always lead to evaporation 
of water since the earth is covered by water. Even more surprising is 
that ice does sublimate just from solar irradiation...


So following such hoax science today is standard to diffuse a field by 
usst claiming something is new.


J.W.


On 27.04.2024 23:35, H L V wrote:

How light can vaporize water without the need for heat


Researchers discovered that light can cause evaporation of water from 
a surface without the need for heat. This 'photomolecular effect' 
could be important for understanding climate change and for improving 
some industrial processes.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/04/240424160652.htm

quote:
"The effect is strongest when light hits the water surface at an angle 
of 45 degrees. It is also strongest with a certain type of 
polarization, called transverse magnetic polarization. And it peaks in 
green light -- which, oddly, is the color for which water is most 
transparent and thus interacts the least.
Chen and his co-researchers have proposed a physical mechanism that 
can explain the angle and polarization dependence of the effect, 
showing that the photons of light can impart a net force on water 
molecules at the water surface that is sufficient to knock them loose 
from the body of water. But they cannot yet account for the color 
dependence, which they say will require further study."


Harry


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Re: [Vo]:New vaporizing effect discovered

2024-04-27 Thread MSF
Nice to see someone else got around to discovering this effect. I observed this 
phenomenon 15 or 20 years ago, using a 532 nm laser. As these dorks will 
finally get around to discovering, this effect varies greatly with the 
refractive index of the material and the degree of polarity. Nitromethane has a 
very strong response at longer wavelengths. As far as the greatest effect 
happening at 45 degrees, it's probably really 53 degrees, Brewster's angle for 
water. As you move the laser across the surface the liquid, you can see a 
deflection of the reflection following the spot of contact. Easy to do, anyone 
can do it.

I finally gave up long ago, trying to convince credentialed physicists of some 
of my strange discoveries. Submitting papers to science publications is useless 
for me, as I discovered decades ago, no credentials. I once had a physicist at 
UCLA who would agree to put his name on one of my discoveries so it could be 
published, but he had the bad taste to die on me.

I can't be the only one to have discovered this phenomenon long ago, but it's 
one of those things you sort of think, "So what?"

On Saturday, April 27th, 2024 at 2:35 PM, H L V  wrote:

> How light can vaporize water without the need for heat
>
> 
> Researchers discovered that light can cause evaporation of water from a 
> surface without the need for heat. This 'photomolecular effect' could be 
> important for understanding climate change and for improving some industrial 
> processes.
>
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/04/240424160652.htm
>
> quote:
> "The effect is strongest when light hits the water surface at an angle of 45 
> degrees. It is also strongest with a certain type of polarization, called 
> transverse magnetic polarization. And it peaks in green light -- which, 
> oddly, is the color for which water is most transparent and thus interacts 
> the least.
> Chen and his co-researchers have proposed a physical mechanism that can 
> explain the angle and polarization dependence of the effect, showing that the 
> photons of light can impart a net force on water molecules at the water 
> surface that is sufficient to knock them loose from the body of water. But 
> they cannot yet account for the color dependence, which they say will require 
> further study."
>
> Harry

[Vo]:New vaporizing effect discovered

2024-04-27 Thread H L V
How light can vaporize water without the need for heat


Researchers discovered that light can cause evaporation of water from a
surface without the need for heat. This 'photomolecular effect' could be
important for understanding climate change and for improving some
industrial processes.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/04/240424160652.htm

quote:
"The effect is strongest when light hits the water surface at an angle of
45 degrees. It is also strongest with a certain type of polarization,
called transverse magnetic polarization. And it peaks in green light --
which, oddly, is the color for which water is most transparent and thus
interacts the least.
Chen and his co-researchers have proposed a physical mechanism that can
explain the angle and polarization dependence of the effect, showing that
the photons of light can impart a net force on water molecules at the water
surface that is sufficient to knock them loose from the body of water. But
they cannot yet account for the color dependence, which they say will
require further study."

Harry