[Vo]:On loss or gain of energy in presure volume work in solids with varying temperature

2008-04-17 Thread David Jonsson
Hi I have an idea about what this is all about http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0508107 The authors talk about inconsistency but my understanding is that it explains two well known phenomena in everyday life. I want to hear what you say before I say more. Can anyone conclude what the two phenomena

Re: [Vo]:On loss or gain of energy in presure volume work in solids with varying temperature

2008-04-17 Thread Jones Beene
... one of them would probably be a negative expansion coefficient - i.e. freezing water, or the mischmetals which contract with applied heat Can anyone conclude what the two phenomena are? David

Re: [Vo]:On loss or gain of energy in presure volume work in solids with varying temperature

2008-04-17 Thread R C Macaulay
Sure David, Using the example of a piece of copper rod at ambient temperature, Rapidly bend the rod and it gets hot at the bend. The more rapid the bend, the hotter it gets. No inconsistency unless you wish to rewrite thermo.. which some brainiac should do soon before we tumble. Richard David

Re: [Vo]:On loss or gain of energy in presure volume work in solids with varying temperature

2008-04-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Title:Inconsistencies in the current thermodynamic description of elastic solids Authors:Jozsef Garai, Alexandre Laugier (Submitted on 17 Aug 2005) Abstract: Using the contemporary thermodynamic equations of elastic solids leads to contradictions with the fundamental statements of