[Vo]:Question: Thyratrons/Glow Discharge Tubes

2009-04-19 Thread Chris Zell
I was curious to know if any anomalies have been reported in regard to 
thyratrons or other regulator tubes.  There are a number of free energy 
claimants - Correa, Shoulders, Chernetski, Stamenko and others - who use 
discharges in vacuum tubes . However, many of us lack the extensive resources 
to test such ideas by building the whole apparatus from scratch.  Since tubes 
still exist that can handle large discharges ( and may be charged with hydrogen 
or other gases in a near vacuum), it makes sense to see if existing parts could 
be used to build free energy devices that others could easily duplicate.
 
Any thoughts or observations?  Thanks.


  

Re: [Vo]:Question: Thyratrons/Glow Discharge Tubes

2009-04-19 Thread Horace Heffner


On Apr 19, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Chris Zell wrote:

I was curious to know if any anomalies have been reported in regard  
to thyratrons or other regulator tubes.  There are a number of free  
energy claimants - Correa, Shoulders, Chernetski, Stamenko and  
others - who use discharges in vacuum tubes . However, many of us  
lack the extensive resources to test such ideas by building the  
whole apparatus from scratch.  Since tubes still exist that can  
handle large discharges ( and may be charged with hydrogen or other  
gases in a near vacuum), it makes sense to see if existing parts  
could be used to build free energy devices that others could easily  
duplicate.


Any thoughts or observations?  Thanks.


This brings to mind Don Borghi's experiment:

http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=Don+Borghi's 
+experimentie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8


http://tinyurl.com/cdpe9k

wherein a hydrogen filled klystron was used to neutron activate  
materials surrounding it.  It was said to prove that the p + e - n  
reaction was feasible, despite problems with angular momentum (spin)  
conservation. It strikes me as more likely that a brief half-life  
neutral particle or particle assemblage can be formed from p + e. The  
extraordinary energy available to the electron in close proximity to  
a nucleus enables a wide variety of weak reactions, including W  
particle formation, strange quark formation or interaction, and  
others, that can delay the electron's nucleus traverse and even  
provide a modest half-life for a fairly heavy and comparatively slow  
particle capable of entering and modifying nearby nuclei.


Clearly this kind of experimentation might provide insights into cold  
fusion, but may not be sufficient to prove cold fusion and may not  
even be essentially related to it. Neutrons could, for example, be  
due to spallation neutrons from D in the hydrogen.


Related p + e - n experiments have been carried out by Elio Conte  
(formerly a vort, and reported in Infinite Energy vol 4, No. 67),  
Santilli, and others.


It may be of use to check out the direct effect of hydrogen loaded  
klystrons (or other hydrogen loaded tubes) on CR-39 particle  
detectors, or other types of particle detectors.


It is notable that Conte reported melting of hydrogen loaded aluminum  
cathodes when they were exposed to energetic beta sources. Though  
energetic beta emitters are not available to amateurs, a high energy  
electron beam (like a 200 keV beam emitted through a thin window,  
e.g. a gold backed cathode back side in vacuo, might be achievable  
and provide an effective catalyst).


All not easy, and definitely not safe, but still doable for those  
experienced in such things.


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/