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Enhancing the power of the quantum vacuum is done by enclosing it within cavity inside of matter. This restriction is squeezing distance to favor energy. On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:30 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: My argument though would be that maybe rather than having zero temperature, maybe quantum effects occurs due to enhancing the power of the quantum vacuum. Consider that what we have here is in a sense a signal from the quantum and noise from temperature. If we lower the temperature, the noise is reduced to the point that the signal allows something extraordinary. But what if the signal is being increased? If the energy of the quantum vacuum is being enhanced sufficiently, then the signal might overpower the temperature noise even at very high temperatures. IMO this is far more likely since I know that such conditioning of the vacuum is possible. John On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:13 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: You ask an interesting question about temperature due to being in an excited state for an individual atom. I suppose it might be defined in that manner as including both motion and excess stored energy, but most of the time when I consider temperature it is a result of the relative motion of the atoms according to our frame of reference. If the atoms are in the form of hydrogen that has been ionized then the individual protons would come to rest relative to each other periodically. Of course protons are tiny objects relative to the cavities that Mark is considering and plenty of them could be contained within one. They would likely repel each other due to having the same positive charge which would allow the storage of energy among the group. This energy storage would be comparable to energy stored within a spring since it attempts to force the protons apart. The real questions are how close do the protons need to be to each other and for how long of a time frame before a reaction takes place. If you have 4 protons at rest and close together does that encourage a BEC type of reaction? I believe that this is what Mark is thinking, but I may have not understand him well. I still tend to believe that some form of magnetic coupling is the key to LENR, perhaps involving the spins of the particles. So far, I have not seen adequate evidence that BEC reactions have anything to do with LENR. I hope that the mechanism will be understood soon as a consequence of the recent increased replication activity. Dave -Original Message- From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Dec 30, 2014 2:04 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:FYI: Strong light–matter coupling in two-dimensional atomic crystals Can an atom have a temperature between its different parts? Is an atom that is excited and about to emit a photon not quite hot? On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 6:09 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I have considered what you are saying as being normal Mark. Relative motion of an atom to itself is zero, so it is at zero kelvin as far as it knows. When a second atom is added to the void, it becomes more complicated but the relative motion of the two must become zero many times per second as they collide and rebound within your assumed cavity. During these brief intervals we have two atoms that are at zero Kelvin from their reference frame. As you add more and more atoms to the mix the amount of time during which zero relative motion exists between them becomes smaller and less likely, but does occur. As long as you keep the number of atoms relatively small that are required to react in the process of your choice, it will have an opportunity to happen many times per second inside each cavity. Multiply that number by the number of possible active cavities within a large object and you get an enormous number of active sites that have the potential to react. If only 4 atoms are required at zero Kelvin in order to react as you may be considering, it seems obvious that this will occur so often that a large amount of heat will be released by a system of that type. When you realize that it seems to be very difficult to achieve an LENR device that generates lots of heat I suspect that the number of reacting atoms confined within the cavity is quite a bit greater than 4. How many do you believe are required in order to combine and in what form is the ash? On the other hand, if a reaction is virtually guaranteed once a modest number of atoms becomes confined inside the void, then the limiting factor might be that it becomes impossible to confine the required number under most conditions. If this situation is the limiting factor, then a higher temperature could well allow more atoms of the reactants to enter into a void of the necessary type as more space become available when the cavity walls open with additional motion. I am
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*Effects of Spin-Dependent Polariton-Polariton Interactions in Semiconductor Microcavities: Spin Rings, Bright Spatial Solitons and Soliton Patterns* http://etheses.whiterose.ac.uk/3872/1/SICH_eThesis.pdf A polariton BEC is a different animal from a matter based BEC. It involves a process of energy flows and balances. These two types a BEC are not comparable as explained below. See chapter 1.2 The polaritons have a lifetime that is typically comparable to or shorter than thermalization times, giving them an inherently non-equilibrium nature. Nevertheless, they exhibit many of the features that would be expected of equilibrium Bose–Einstein condensates (BECs). The non-equilibrium nature of the system raises fundamental questions as to what it means for a system to be a BEC, and introduces new physics beyond that seen in other macroscopically coherent systems. One thing I learned from this reference is that the spin of a dark polariton is 2. That is a lot of spin. A dark poloriton is in superposition with holes rather than electrons. On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:09 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Hi John: To answer your two questions: - Emphatically No - Huh? J I will go into greater detail about what temperature is when replying to Bob’s response… But to answer your second question, what is ‘hot’ ??? That’s an imprecise and relative word… Start out with any atom which is at 0K, in other words, at its lowest energy state. In my model, electrons and protons are an oscillation of some kind. At this lowest energy state, these oscillators will have **very precise** frequencies and phase relationships between them. Here’s another clue as to what this state is like: http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2012/06/08/theorem-unifies-superfluids-and-other-weird-materials/ “In Bose-Einstein condensates, for example, “you start with a thin gas of atoms, cool it to incredibly low temperature — nanokelvins — and once you get to this temperature, atoms tend to stick with each other in strange ways,” Murayama said. “They have this funny vibrational mode that gives you one Nambu-Goldstone boson, and this gas of atoms starts to become superfluid again so it ***CAN FLOW WITHOUT VISCOSITY FOREVER.***” And this is a MOST important statement to understand what we are dealing with: One characteristic of states with a low Nambu-Goldstone boson number is that very little energy is required to perturb the system. Fluids flow freely in superfluids, and **atoms vibrate forever in Bose-Einstein condensates with just a slight nudge.*** These are CLUES as to what we are really dealing with when it comes to atoms/electrons/protons when NOT complicated by heat… heat is NOT the norm in the universe. This is where we should have started when trying to come up with theories to describe atoms and the subatomic particles… however, living in a world bathed in heat from the sun, our theories had to deal with the disorder caused by a multitude of heat quanta jumping around from atom to atom like a hot potatoes game; each person is an atom, and the hot potatoes are the heat quanta… My goal with Dr. Storms, and with The Collective, is to get an accurate (or at least better) picture/understanding of what the ‘conditions’ are inside the NAE/voids/microcavities. I would wager that it is very different from what most are thinking… and if I’m right, then trying to apply modern mainstream theories to how atoms are behaving inside the NAE is not going to be successful. It’s a very different universe in there, with a very different set of ‘rules’… -mark iverson *From:* John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 11:04 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:FYI: Strong light–matter coupling in two-dimensional atomic crystals Can an atom have a temperature between its different parts? Is an atom that is excited and about to emit a photon not quite hot? On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 6:09 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I have considered what you are saying as being normal Mark. Relative motion of an atom to itself is zero, so it is at zero kelvin as far as it knows. When a second atom is added to the void, it becomes more complicated but the relative motion of the two must become zero many times per second as they collide and rebound within your assumed cavity. During these brief intervals we have two atoms that are at zero Kelvin from their reference frame. As you add more and more atoms to the mix the amount of time during which zero relative motion exists between them becomes smaller and less likely, but does occur. As long as you keep the number of atoms relatively small that are required to react in the process of your choice, it will have an opportunity to happen many times per second inside each cavity
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In this email I mull over and ponder things, if this strikes you as too long, please just read the below *bolded* and *italicized* *sentence*. And to clarify, by enhancing the signal in the quantum vacuum, I mean enhancing the wave function of the particle. To use boats as an analogy, enhancing the signal might be achieved by either increasing the density of the medium (water) around the boat so the wave from that boat has more substance. Or increasing the degree to which the boat creates waves, either by increasing the degree of disturbance the boat creates, or the increasing the disturbance it radiates. But what is a wave function anyway??? Is a wave function not the degree of noise in the quantum field? And degree of disorder. If so, maybe it is that the temperature of space (zero point) must be made to exceed the temperature of matter? Or exceed it by a certain degree. Obviously the key is that the quantum phenomena gain in influence. But the question is what is going on in the quantum medium for this to occur, if we were to look at a quantum probability wave, are we looking to increase the order or the disorder? A collapsed wave has more than probability, it has certainty (dependant on opinion on the Copenhagen interpretation). So are we seeking a strong wave, but a strong wave must have a high degree of uncertainty, and a low probability of being in any specific location. *Huh, is it that heat causes collision, and collision collapses probability?* *Maybe that is a better way of looking at it?* That makes so much sense, is this something that is widely known and I have just discovered what I missed reading about? Or a fresh insight? It is worth noting that while often ignored due to the fact that it points to a different paradigm, it does seem that consciousness can effect quantum level events. Now consciousness must be occurring as some kind of wave in the quantum medium, which is then able to effect the wave function of a particle. There must be less woo-woo examples, but could the same enhancement/influence of the quantum background not be produced by a CAT and thereby increasing whatever a wave function is? John
