Best option would be to get the CO2 from the atmosphere as we are all aware,
let's see the implications:
= extensive growing surfaces with ample water, nutrients and sunlight
= the oceans provide all that, as discussed before
= it occurs to me we could use the natural ocean streams as conveyor
Nice posting Michel,
I can envision a fleet of large ocean going catamaran
vessels, hulls perhaps 200 meters in length, and
designed so that between the hulls is fitted on a
roller mecahism a continuous recirculating open-weave
netting to harvest the sargasso.
The catamaran could even be
- Original Message -
From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'
Nice posting Michel,
I can envision a fleet of large ocean going catamaran
vessels, hulls perhaps 200 meters
Howdy Jones,
Just returned from a reunion meet for ex members of the state water planning
group where I listened to some interesting arguments for algae to bio-fuel
production from sewage plants. Never can happen because it would involve a
municipal public function and an atmosphere generated
--- Richard,
Yes, I agree with you that the political problems of
using existing sewage plants and ponds for Algoil
range from high-to-insurmountable. I got a cold
shoulder from a call placed to the local plant here,
which just happens to be perfectly sited for such a
dual use.
However, if
Howdy Jones,
We have an ideal site for an bio plant as you described. Alcoa-Rockdale ,
just northeast of Austin Texas. 60,000 acres, old lignite strip mine and
electricpower gen plant. Alcoa wants to decommission it.
By the looks of Alcoa performance on Wall St. Its surprising one of their
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:44:10 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
The very shallow open-pond is preferable in areas
where there is plenty of water, so that evaporation is
not a problem. If you have every seen a sliding-form
curbing machine in action, then you can realize how
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:44:10 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
fed with the cheapest possible carbon source, which
is NOT going to be airborne CO2, unfortunately, but
could be powdered lignite, or other subgrade of
coal+minerals ($30 ton + shipping)
You have just found
Jones, you are very clever but the main reason to look at Algoil biofuels
etc is to try to reduce the de-sequestration of fossil carbon. Using a
lignite source will just not cut the mustard! I know that some Americans are
getting excited about freeing themselves from the yoke of OPEC and, from
in backing US developer of low-cost solar
panels...
A case of no prophet accepted in his own country? ;-)
Michel
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From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:15:57 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Wow - this guy Glen Kertz - who has an operating system (pictured) so his
claims are based on actual results - sez he can produce about 100,000 gallons
of algae oil peracre per year, compared to about 30
be the overall
sun-to-wheel efficiency?
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'
...
It seems prudent that the huge amounts of money being
Michel
You're right about ethanol of course, but PV is real nice IMHO, no moving
part, no pollution, probably the highest overall efficiency, even at
Nanosolar's present 9 to 10% sun-to-electric efficiency. Even if the 50%
figure for sun-to-algoil was true --I am skeptical too--, what
Let me correct this:
a major point not yet made is to remember that Kertz's algae produce 50% oil
and almost 50% protein (food), so if the efficiency is 35% for the oil - it
is 70% for the net biomass, and the food may be just as important as the oil
to the third world. This is especially
--- On Wed, 4/2/08, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not sure efficiency is the main concern.
If the comparative cost of the oil produced is close but
acceptable, and the dollars stay at home instead of going
into the hands of our enemies: Saudi Arabia in particular,
then we are
From Jones,
...
Locating and owning optimum sites for algae farming could
replace exploration and drilling. While they wouldn't be the same
sort of refineries, oil company engineers could do what they do
best, designing and implementing the large scale chemical
processing plants that give
--- OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree. One would think that algoil refineries
would be right up
their alley.
I suppose Algore will try to take credit for algoil.
You rock. That's why
- Original Message
From: OrionWorks
http://tinyurl.com/2t2de3
Wow - this guy Glen Kertz - who has an operating system (pictured) so his
claims are based on actual results - sez he can produce about 100,000 gallons
of algae oil peracre per year, compared to about 30 gallons per acre
Howdy Jones,
Notice buried deep in the CNN article is a remark by Kertz.. regarding their
search for new forms of algae
Intriguing details like that keep Kertz and other scientists searching for
more and different algae. While dusty west Texas may not be the best hunting
grounds, he said he is
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