[Vo]:Re: Divine Intervention

2008-06-11 Thread Michel Jullian
Just wondering, haven't you fellow androids drifted slightly off topic in this 
and the other (oil gang) thread?

Michel

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From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Divine Intervention


 Stephen, why do you assume the child was any less supernatural than the 
 rabbi? It seems to me we have only two possibilities.
 
 1. Both the rabbi and the child were real and left the scene without 
 being noticed. This seems unlikely since help was at hand.
 
 2. Both the rabbi and the child were an image provide to the soldier as 
 a message. Only a combination of the two images would make the message 
 have any value.
 
 Another question not discussed is, Are such encounters actually in the 
 physical world or are they images created within the brain by the spirit 
 world?
 
 Ed
 
 
 Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
 
 
 
 OrionWorks wrote:
 
 Perhaps against my better judgment I feel compelled to share the
 following incident. FWIW I believe it is a truthful account.

 A couple of years ago at one of those informal UFO meetings I attend
 in the Milwaukee area I had an unusual conversation with a good
 acquaintance of mine. I'll call him Danny, not his real name. Danny
 is a generous and gregarious fellow who often hosts these gatherings
 at his humble abode. I've grown accustomed to visiting Danny and enjoy
 catching up on the latest family matters. To my surprise I've
 discovered that I really have enjoyed his company despite the fact
 that he is, hands down, the most staunch conservative republican I
 have ever encountered in my bleeding heart Liberal Democratic life. He
 knows of my political predilections as well. By some miracle Danny and
 I seem to have acquired an amusing way of poking fun at each other's
 extremisms.

 Danny possesses a spectacular satellite photo of the entire state of
 Israel, as tall as my 5 foot 9 inch stature that proudly hangs on a
 wall. His refrigerator is stuffed with dog-eared photos of republican
 candidates he admires, including a few he had the privilege of
 personally shaking hands with. Danny is in the business of commercial
 Real Estate. His humble abode reveals the fact that his line of
 profession has been very good to him and to his family. Perhaps
 humble abode should be taken as a euphemism. Danny has lots of nice
 expensive toys, and he enjoys sharing them with his guests.

 It should come as no surprise to all that Danny is of the Jewish 
 faith. Very.

 One evening Danny took me aside to tell me of an account he had just
 gotten from his son who at that time was serving in the Israeli army.
 I'll call him Jimmy, not his real name. Jewish American born
 citizens can share duel citizenship with Israel, and as such, can
 serve in the Israeli army. Danny and his wife being the concerned
 parents that they were, were worried about their son's safety, but
 they didn't disapprove of his desire to protect Israel. Jimmy son went
 to Israel and quickly got into the thick of things.

 One particular account I was told happened when Jimmy, along with
 several of his comrades were sweeping through a devastated
 neighborhood recently reduced to rubble. During a brief lull in the
 fighting Jimmy came across an open clearing where to his astonishment
 in the center of the rubble was a rabbi holding protectively onto a
 small child. It appeared as if the rabbi was trying to protect the
 small child under his long black coat. Jimmy was astonished to find
 these two individuals smack dab in the center of an extremely
 dangerous environment. The Rabbi noticed Jimmy's presence and motioned
 him to approach him. Jimmy complied, no doubt trying to figure out
 where in the hell these two had come from, but worse, how in the hell
 to get them safely out. Once face to face, the rabbi asked Jimmy if he
 would take the small boy currently under his protective coat and out
 of harm's way. The rabbi extended his hand. In his palm was some
 money, the equivalent of around ten dollars. The rabbi apparently
 wanted to give Jimmy money, to make it worth his time and effort.
 Jimmy was incensed. He was outraged that a rabbi would attempt to
 essentially bribe him, as if money would have been the only incentive
 he needed to make sure a small helpless boy would be taken out of
 harms way. Jimmy turned around to bark an order to one of his
 comrades, but when he turned back to instruct the rabbi where the two
 of them should be lead off to, both had disappeared. Jimmy had been
 face to face talking with two extremely misplaced enigmas in his life,
 and now they were nowhere in sight.

 Jimmy knew instantly as sure as anything that he had just had a close
 encounter with an angel. The encounter affected him profoundly. Later
 in the week when he was once again in the middle of another deadly
 fire fight and as he heard bullets whiz past his head he knew,
 utterly, that he would be protected, that some 

Re: [Vo]:Re: Divine Intervention

2008-06-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence



Michel Jullian wrote:

Just wondering, haven't you fellow androids drifted slightly off
topic in this and the other (oil gang) thread?



Depends on whether you think a Deus Ex Machina is a reasonable solution 
to the energy crises.




Re: [Vo]:Re: Divine Intervention

2008-06-11 Thread R C Macaulay


Howdy Michel,
Religion, science fiction, politics and women  are the few safe topics in 
which one can converse without having a lick of sense.

Richard


Michel Jullian wrote:

Just wondering, haven't you fellow androids drifted slightly off
topic in this and the other (oil gang) thread?



Depends on whether you think a Deus Ex Machina is a reasonable solution
to the energy crises.





[Vo]:Re: Divine Intervention

2008-06-11 Thread Michel Jullian
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:

 Just wondering, haven't you fellow androids drifted slightly off
 topic in this and the other (oil gang) thread?
 
 
 Depends on whether you think a Deus Ex Machina is a reasonable solution 
 to the energy crises.

Nope, deities and other supernatural beings are not the practical type ;-) BTW, 
any Deus can only be Ex Machina, literally coming out of the machine, as it was 
obviously created by us paranoid androids in our own image, not the other way 
round as claimed.

Richard C. Macaulay wrote:

 Religion, science fiction, politics and women are the few safe topics in
 which one can converse without having a lick of sense.

Howdy Richard, this sounds the most sensible contribution to the topic so far!

Michel