Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
In the early days Rossi mentioned that heat is largely produced by particles absorbed by the lead shielding, mentioning gamma radiation that he had in mind. How much is known about shielding requirements of muons (or related sub particles)? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about the cross section of muons. But, given the enormous energy, if those are discharged within some millenniums, it won't be a problem 2015-08-10 15:16 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: LENR thermalizes gamma rays into heat, but how far does the safety zone of LENR thermalization occur? If Rossi sits outside that zone of LENR protection, does his body feel gamma radiation from muon decay? What is the cross section for that gamma decay inside Rossi? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: 1 mol of muons measaure 0.1g. 10^26 gives around 15g of muons. Their decay in mass gives pretty much only gamma rays in terms of energy. That gives around 300ktons in TNT. Which is about 15 times Hiroshima's nuke. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
The shield of 1/2 mile depth of earth is a sufficient. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote: In the early days Rossi mentioned that heat is largely produced by particles absorbed by the lead shielding, mentioning gamma radiation that he had in mind. How much is known about shielding requirements of muons (or related sub particles)? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about the cross section of muons. But, given the enormous energy, if those are discharged within some millenniums, it won't be a problem 2015-08-10 15:16 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: LENR thermalizes gamma rays into heat, but how far does the safety zone of LENR thermalization occur? If Rossi sits outside that zone of LENR protection, does his body feel gamma radiation from muon decay? What is the cross section for that gamma decay inside Rossi? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: 1 mol of muons measaure 0.1g. 10^26 gives around 15g of muons. Their decay in mass gives pretty much only gamma rays in terms of energy. That gives around 300ktons in TNT. Which is about 15 times Hiroshima's nuke. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
The muons are coming out of a sample cold rust doped with potassium that is kept in the dark. Where does the fusion fit in there? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: I think those gamma detected are not really an issue. They are probably generated when 8 deuterium gather to form O16, according to Akito Model. It may that, instead of emitting many shorth xrays rays due a highly anisotropic perturbation of 8 deuterium fusing simmultenously, what happens is the right away emission of a muon. But I don't think that is a main branch.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
Some part of the reaction yields thermal energy (low xrays, which are absorbed in any material within nanometers). Some jump straight to muon formation.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
I think those gamma detected are not really an issue. They are probably generated when 8 deuterium gather to form O16, according to Akito Model. It may that, instead of emitting many shorth xrays rays due a highly anisotropic perturbation of 8 deuterium fusing simmultenously, what happens is the right away emission of a muon. But I don't think that is a main branch.
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Isn't he talking about ultra dense deuterium? That's the basis of his work.
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I made some calculations. I guess it fits his results: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+++8*+mass+of+Deuterium+-+mass+of+O16+-+mass+of+muon The end result is a muon with a kinetic energy of 4 MeV.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
A little premature don't you think? If this kind of radiation is produced in abundance then the industry is dead for most applications. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 1:03 am Subject: [Vo]:Rossi beware! The recent experiments by Holmlid indicate the production of a zoo of sub-atomic particles including muons associated with the LENR reaction. When muons decay, they produce electrons. Could the Hot cat be producing this unusual type of radiation? Is the name “M.meCurie” be related to the discovery of radiation? Will the Hot cat produce so much muon radiation that it may be harmful to Rossi in that shipping container? Does Rossi know that his Hot cat is producing muons? Will Rossi meet the same fate as “M.me Curie” under the possible extreme exposure to radiation? When breaking new ground in science danger to life and limb sometimes occurs. All those muons coming from the Mouse might be driving the Cat into unexpectedly high SSM efficiency. Any reactor that can produce all those electron, so many as to enable direct electrical production, that reactor must be producing huge amounts of muons. Rossi realty doesn't know what is happening inside the Hot cat...it new...but there is no free lunch in this world. For all those who care for Rossi's welfare. convince him to leave that shipping container.
RE: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
From Axil: ... Rossi realty doesn't know what is happening inside the Hot cat...it new... but there is no free lunch in this world. For all those who care for Rossi's welfare. convince him to leave that shipping container. I wouldn't be surprised that Rossi doesn't have a firm understanding of what's happening either. But that pretty much describes any inventor, researcher, or scientist who by fate stumbles across a phenomenon that does not fit the text books. I gather you suspect Rossi is now in mortal danger of frying himself as he continues to stroke his kitties. I guess your concern for Rossi's health is touching. How long has Rossi been working hands-on in this field? And how much hands-on experience have you personally accumulated? If you have accumulated some hands-on experience please feel free to list some of that personal experience of yours so that I, too, can start feeling some concern for Rossi's fate. Otherwise... Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
How much is too much? There is a wise truism: Moderation in all things. How many muons is too many? Does a LENR test reactor produce too many subatomic particles, how about a 1 megawatt plant, how adout a 10 or 100 megawatt plant? What is the limit for safe exposure to muons? Is it wise to sit in the beam path of a particle accelerator producing mesons, pions and muons? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From Axil: ... Rossi realty doesn't know what is happening inside the Hot cat...it new... but there is no free lunch in this world. For all those who care for Rossi's welfare. convince him to leave that shipping container. I wouldn't be surprised that Rossi doesn't have a firm understanding of what's happening either. But that pretty much describes any inventor, researcher, or scientist who by fate stumbles across a phenomenon that does not fit the text books. I gather you suspect Rossi is now in mortal danger of frying himself as he continues to stroke his kitties. I guess your concern for Rossi's health is touching. How long has Rossi been working hands-on in this field? And how much hands-on experience have you personally accumulated? If you have accumulated some hands-on experience please feel free to list some of that personal experience of yours so that I, too, can start feeling some concern for Rossi's fate. Otherwise... Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
LENR thermalizes gamma rays into heat, but how far does the safety zone of LENR thermalization occur? If Rossi sits outside that zone of LENR protection, does his body feel gamma radiation from muon decay? What is the cross section for that gamma decay inside Rossi? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: 1 mol of muons measaure 0.1g. 10^26 gives around 15g of muons. Their decay in mass gives pretty much only gamma rays in terms of energy. That gives around 300ktons in TNT. Which is about 15 times Hiroshima's nuke.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
Are mesons safe? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:29 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: This country is transmitting multi terrawatts of electrons into the atmosphere 24/7, what's a few muons... On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: How much is too much? There is a wise truism: Moderation in all things. How many muons is too many? Does a LENR test reactor produce too many subatomic particles, how about a 1 megawatt plant, how adout a 10 or 100 megawatt plant? What is the limit for safe exposure to muons? Is it wise to sit in the beam path of a particle accelerator producing mesons, pions and muons? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From Axil: ... Rossi realty doesn't know what is happening inside the Hot cat...it new... but there is no free lunch in this world. For all those who care for Rossi's welfare. convince him to leave that shipping container. I wouldn't be surprised that Rossi doesn't have a firm understanding of what's happening either. But that pretty much describes any inventor, researcher, or scientist who by fate stumbles across a phenomenon that does not fit the text books. I gather you suspect Rossi is now in mortal danger of frying himself as he continues to stroke his kitties. I guess your concern for Rossi's health is touching. How long has Rossi been working hands-on in this field? And how much hands-on experience have you personally accumulated? If you have accumulated some hands-on experience please feel free to list some of that personal experience of yours so that I, too, can start feeling some concern for Rossi's fate. Otherwise... Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
This country is transmitting multi terrawatts of electrons into the atmosphere 24/7, what's a few muons... On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: How much is too much? There is a wise truism: Moderation in all things. How many muons is too many? Does a LENR test reactor produce too many subatomic particles, how about a 1 megawatt plant, how adout a 10 or 100 megawatt plant? What is the limit for safe exposure to muons? Is it wise to sit in the beam path of a particle accelerator producing mesons, pions and muons? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From Axil: ... Rossi realty doesn't know what is happening inside the Hot cat...it new... but there is no free lunch in this world. For all those who care for Rossi's welfare. convince him to leave that shipping container. I wouldn't be surprised that Rossi doesn't have a firm understanding of what's happening either. But that pretty much describes any inventor, researcher, or scientist who by fate stumbles across a phenomenon that does not fit the text books. I gather you suspect Rossi is now in mortal danger of frying himself as he continues to stroke his kitties. I guess your concern for Rossi's health is touching. How long has Rossi been working hands-on in this field? And how much hands-on experience have you personally accumulated? If you have accumulated some hands-on experience please feel free to list some of that personal experience of yours so that I, too, can start feeling some concern for Rossi's fate. Otherwise... Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
Ultraviolet light is not dangerous is small amounts, it even makes vitamin D. But a large dose of UV over a long time causes skin cancer. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: There isn't anything particularly dangerous with any particle. What matters is how much they ionize your body and disrupt you dna. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_contamination
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
1 mol of muons measaure 0.1g. 10^26 gives around 15g of muons. Their decay in mass gives pretty much only gamma rays in terms of energy. That gives around 300ktons in TNT. Which is about 15 times Hiroshima's nuke.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
There isn't anything particularly dangerous with any particle. What matters is how much they ionize your body and disrupt you dna. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_contamination
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
Electrons do not catalyze fusion, but muons do. If muons enter the body and catalyze some fusion, is that a good thing for one;s health? You tell me, I don't know. The answer might have something to do with the probability cross section of the reaction. If 10^^26 muons are penetrating the body, the chances might be good for a reaction to occur. How many muons are going through Rossi;s body per second? How many fusions reactions are occurring inside Rossi's body? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Are mesons safe? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:29 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: This country is transmitting multi terrawatts of electrons into the atmosphere 24/7, what's a few muons... On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: How much is too much? There is a wise truism: Moderation in all things. How many muons is too many? Does a LENR test reactor produce too many subatomic particles, how about a 1 megawatt plant, how adout a 10 or 100 megawatt plant? What is the limit for safe exposure to muons? Is it wise to sit in the beam path of a particle accelerator producing mesons, pions and muons? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From Axil: ... Rossi realty doesn't know what is happening inside the Hot cat...it new... but there is no free lunch in this world. For all those who care for Rossi's welfare. convince him to leave that shipping container. I wouldn't be surprised that Rossi doesn't have a firm understanding of what's happening either. But that pretty much describes any inventor, researcher, or scientist who by fate stumbles across a phenomenon that does not fit the text books. I gather you suspect Rossi is now in mortal danger of frying himself as he continues to stroke his kitties. I guess your concern for Rossi's health is touching. How long has Rossi been working hands-on in this field? And how much hands-on experience have you personally accumulated? If you have accumulated some hands-on experience please feel free to list some of that personal experience of yours so that I, too, can start feeling some concern for Rossi's fate. Otherwise... Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Rossi beware!
I don't know about the cross section of muons. But, given the enormous energy, if those are discharged within some millenniums, it won't be a problem 2015-08-10 15:16 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: LENR thermalizes gamma rays into heat, but how far does the safety zone of LENR thermalization occur? If Rossi sits outside that zone of LENR protection, does his body feel gamma radiation from muon decay? What is the cross section for that gamma decay inside Rossi? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: 1 mol of muons measaure 0.1g. 10^26 gives around 15g of muons. Their decay in mass gives pretty much only gamma rays in terms of energy. That gives around 300ktons in TNT. Which is about 15 times Hiroshima's nuke. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
[Vo]:Rossi beware!
The recent experiments by Holmlid indicate the production of a zoo of sub-atomic particles including muons associated with the LENR reaction. When muons decay, they produce electrons. Could the Hot cat be producing this unusual type of radiation? Is the name “M.me http://m.me/Curie” be related to the discovery of radiation? Will the Hot cat produce so much muon radiation that it may be harmful to Rossi in that shipping container? Does Rossi know that his Hot cat is producing muons? Will Rossi meet the same fate as “M.me http://m.me/ Curie” under the possible extreme exposure to radiation? When breaking new ground in science danger to life and limb sometimes occurs. All those muons coming from the Mouse might be driving the Cat into unexpectedly high SSM efficiency. Any reactor that can produce all those electron, so many as to enable direct electrical production, that reactor must be producing huge amounts of muons. Rossi realty doesn't know what is happening inside the Hot cat...it new...but there is no free lunch in this world. For all those who care for Rossi's welfare. convince him to leave that shipping container.
