[Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread OrionWorks
Frank's work brings up a wish-list: Wouldn't it be nice if there was an economical technology in existence that had the ability to separate CO2 back into its individual elements. Release the oxygen back into the atmosphere while simultaneously nano-manufacturing all sorts of interesting carbon

Re: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
OrionWorks wrote: Frank's work brings up a wish-list: Wouldn't it be nice if there was an economical technology in existence that had the ability to separate CO2 back into its individual elements. Release the oxygen back into the atmosphere while simultaneously nano-manufacturing all

Re: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if there was an economical technology in existence that had the ability to separate CO2 back into its individual elements. That would take as much energy as you get from burning the coal in the first place. It would be useless, because if you have that

RE: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread Jeff Fink
. Jeff -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:09 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2 Frank's work brings up a wish-list: Wouldn't it be nice if there was an economical technology in existence that had the ability

Re: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Actually what I said here was (probably) wrong. Sort of like saying you can't get energy out of sugar in the absence of oxygen -- yeast would laugh in your face if you claimed such a thing. If we start with something like gasoline, which is something like C8H18 (pure octane, I know it's not, but

Re: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread OrionWorks
From Stephen: OrionWorks wrote: Frank's work brings up a wish-list: Wouldn't it be nice if there was an economical technology in existence that had the ability to separate CO2 back into its individual elements. Release the oxygen back into the atmosphere while simultaneously

Re: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:09 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2 Frank's work brings up a wish-list: Wouldn't it be nice if there was an economical technology in existence that had the ability to separate CO2 back into its individual elements. Release the oxygen back

Re: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread leaking pen
the faster they replicate.  Well, isn't that cool?  A self regulating planet wide system is already in place to deal with the problem. Jeff -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:09 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:Sequestering

Re: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread mixent
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:33:03 -0400: Hi, [snip] x*C8H18 + y*O2 -- z*Cw (some kind of graphite?) + q*H2O Without spending time with redox tables or the equivalent I'm not certain but I think the reaction is still energy-positive. The reaction C8H18 +

Re: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:35:49 -0500: Hi, [snip] I would assume the O+H2 -- H2O -- O+H2 cycle is considered to be a much more popular transport of energy. Obviously there has been a lot more research into the latter cycle. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to