RE: [Vo]:Storms comments on Rossi

2011-03-04 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 06:37 PM 3/3/2011, you wrote:

BTW - If you haven't seen it, here is the preliminary WIPO rejection notice
of most of the claims of the Rossi patent

http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/Rossi-Patent-Application-WO-2009-125444-PrelimReport.pdf


Just not surprising at all. My hypothesis would be that Rossi 
expected this, and filed the patent only to create publicity. The 
disclosures in the patent were not adequate, at all.






Re: [Vo]:Storms comments on Rossi

2011-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

Just not surprising at all. My hypothesis would be that Rossi expected 
this, and filed the patent only to create publicity.


Bad publicity. Frankly, it makes him look stupid. I cannot think of any 
reason why he would want to do that.



The disclosures in the patent were not adequate, at all.


They were not.

Why not assume that things are as they appear to be? Why not take things 
at face value? Rossi does a poor job expressing himself in his blog. I 
suppose he wrote a bad patent because he is not good at writing patents. 
He often publishes sloppy mistakes such as the wrong name of the company 
in Greece, and he makes weird claims such as having a PhD from a defunct 
diploma mill. It seems clear to me that he is bad at public relations. 
He does not care about PR, his image, or people's opinions. He may have 
a good business strategy but effective communication is not part of it.


I don't think he is playing mind games. I think he is a technical genius 
but that does not mean he is good at PR or business strategy. Beware of 
ascribing multiple talents to people who happen to excel in one 
particular area.


- Jed



[Vo]:Storms comments on Rossi

2011-03-03 Thread Jed Rothwell

Here is a message Ed sent to Abd and me, reprinted with permission --

This debate of whether to believe Rossi ignores two very important 
facts.  We now know that chemically assisted nuclear reactions are 
possible, thanks to the CF work. This not like the claims for over unity 
based on odd electric circuits or motors.  Second, Rossi has been 
working with people who have published evidence for excess energy and 
nuclear products using Ni and H2.  Consequently, he has not come out of 
left field with a novel claim. His contribution is the increase in 
magnitude. Given the state of CF these days, a person would gain no 
advantage by creating a fake.  First of all, no one would believe it and 
when it was exposed, the game would be over.  So, Rossi has shown all 
the characteristics of a real claim.


The fact that he does not take the path that Jed advocates means 
nothing. If I had such a discovery that did not have patent protection, 
I would take the same path.  Rossi's goal is to keep people confused so 
that no one discovers his secret until he gets a patent.  I suspect a 
lot is going on under the radar using NDA that allow Rossi to contact 
investors and the US patent office.  As for the 1 MW device, I expect it 
has been delivered and is being tested right now. By Oct. the device 
will be well under control and will have a history of performance as 
Rossi claims.  I expect by then, his patent will be granted. The man is 
no fool and obviously has talented people working with him. He is doing 
exactly what a rational person would do under the circumstances.


Ed


My response:

I do not advocate any action that would endanger Rossi's intellectual 
property, or his chances of getting a patent. I do not know much about 
patents. If the actions I advocate would endanger the patent I hereby 
un-advocate them.


I do not have as much respect for Rossi's business acumen as Ed does.

- Jed



RE: [Vo]:Storms comments on Rossi

2011-03-03 Thread Jones Beene
BTW - If you haven't seen it, here is the preliminary WIPO rejection notice
of most of the claims of the Rossi patent

http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/Rossi-Patent-Application-WO-20
09-125444-PrelimReport.pdf