Re: [Vo]:The Valone Matter
Thomas, In July/August issue of Infinite Energy last year, Valone ran the following piece on Russ George: http://newenergytimes.com/SR/Planktos/IE-Planktos-Issue74.htm. A few of the statements in the article that I believe are unsupported or inaccurate are: ...Russ George, CEO of Planktos, Inc., who has already been demonstrating a sequestering process that permanently traps millions of carbon dioxide.! He now uses airplanes instead of a boat to seed the ocean and offers 'certified carbon credits'... Maybe you should add selling stock to your list of sales items. http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/2007/09/21/leading-scientists-and-thinkers-on-energy-thomas-f-valone/ Supporting and buying stock in Planktos, Inc., which has a wonderful plankton-feeding program for the ocean to sequester millions of tons of CO2, is also very important for the short term. Steve At 08:36 PM 5/5/2008, you wrote: Vortexians: I'd like to get your opinions on the Valone matter. If you got caught cheating in a game of cards in the old west, you could expect to be shot. Tom said that there is a working Searle Machine and other SPFE machines in existence. AFAIK, this is not a truthful statement. He has been given the opportunity to produce or repent, he has chosen to ignore. IMHO, this reflects badly on every legitimate researcher in the field. Why he did this is known only to him, but I assume that he is trying to sell books or memberships. So the question is, should we be self policing, or just let Tom do what he wants to do? --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:The Valone Matter
Howdy Thomas, Shooting cardsharps is a waste of bullets.Ya hafta think like Bear Stearns (B-S) and not like a crooked ole west Sheriff or Jesse James in todays world. In one slick move B-S took the house for more bucks than Las Vegas ever earned total. Yet, among the masters of the game, B-S is penny ante poker. It is not the recognizible marked card in the game that should be of concern, it's the guys down at the bank in the back room. Shucks!, ev'rybuddy knows who the moonshiner is in a small town.. it's sorta comfortable knowledge. Comfortable knowledge keeps people at ease, even when you know something sneaky's going on. Tom ain't hurtin' nobudy, just trying to make a livin'. In the Dime Box saloon we pay due respect even to the madam as a necessary part of doing business. If we put up with Chaney and Rumsfeld... why, we can put up with anything. Makes the saloon colorful for the tourists. Richard Thomas wrote, If you got caught cheating in a game of cards in the old west, you could expect to be shot. He has been given the opportunity to produce or repent, he has chosen to ignore. IMHO, this reflects badly on every legitimate researcher in the field. Why he did this is known only to him, but I assume that he is trying to sell books or memberships. So the question is, should we be self policing, or just let Tom do what he wants to do?
Re: [Vo]:The Valone Matter
Thomas, Before hanging Tom Valone from the nearest tree, note that there is a large spectrum of possibilities in the words working Searle (sic) Machine. Semantics have always played a pivotal role in Free Energy research. Working may mean anything from It spins by itself, although we have to give it a tiny kick each cycle to It re-charges its own battery while powering this light, although we have no idea what the battery chemistry is to When we spin it to 10 Krpm it lifts off, although we haven't done it in a vacuum etc etc. Try to get Tom (or anyone) to define exactly what Working means and then you can gently (?) remind him that he may be playing the Validation by Implication game to the detriment of all. Also question his source - is it his own eyes and instruments on site, or is it a trusted friend telling him in minute detail, or is it a gullible investor trying to bail out of an over-sold free energy scam, or is it the inventor him/herself trying to convince you over the internet, of all places, that the world has changed and you can be part of it for a mere megabuck or two. cheers - George [EMAIL PROTECTED] thomas malloy wrote: Vortexians: I'd like to get your opinions on the Valone matter. If you got caught cheating in a game of cards in the old west, you could expect to be shot. Tom said that there is a working Searle Machine and other SPFE machines in existence. AFAIK, this is not a truthful statement. He has been given the opportunity to produce or repent, he has chosen to ignore. IMHO, this reflects badly on every legitimate researcher in the field. Why he did this is known only to him, but I assume that he is trying to sell books or memberships. So the question is, should we be self policing, or just let Tom do what he wants to do? --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:The Valone Matter
George Hathaway wrote: Thomas, Before hanging Tom Valone from the nearest tree, note that there is a large spectrum of possibilities in the words working Searle (sic) Machine. Semantics have always played a pivotal role in Free Energy research. Working may mean anything from It spins by itself, although we have to give it a tiny kick each cycle to It re-charges its o First of all, Tom ignored me, secondly F E means self powering and powering a load besides. It would appear that maybe he is right, Sterling Allen just sent me this: The working Searle Machine he is referring to was built by Godin Roschin. I don't know the particulars. I can see why there are self powering free energy machines, except I wouldn't use that vernacular: self-powering. It might appear that way, but there has to be some external energy source, visible or not, that is the energy source that is being harnessed. He has been privy to working magnet motors, for example. So I think he has grounds for what he has said. So now the question is who are Godin and Roschin, does their machine self power, does it produce any surplus energy, does it produce any antigravity, does it ameoliorate the symptoms disease, can I see it? --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:The Valone Matter
Thomas wrote: So now the question is who are Godin and Roschin, does their machine self power, does it produce any surplus energy, does it produce any antigravity, does it ameoliorate the symptoms disease, can I see it? http://www.rexresearch.com/roschin/roschin.htm
[Vo]:The Valone Matter
Vortexians: I'd like to get your opinions on the Valone matter. If you got caught cheating in a game of cards in the old west, you could expect to be shot. Tom said that there is a working Searle Machine and other SPFE machines in existence. AFAIK, this is not a truthful statement. He has been given the opportunity to produce or repent, he has chosen to ignore. IMHO, this reflects badly on every legitimate researcher in the field. Why he did this is known only to him, but I assume that he is trying to sell books or memberships. So the question is, should we be self policing, or just let Tom do what he wants to do? --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
