Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Drowning Trout drowningtro...@gmail.com wrote: Evacuated Tube Transports would be way more beneficial than flying cars. This is similar to the proposed SwissMetro project. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-05 Thread Robert Lynn
Flying cars can eliminate the need for cities, and many of the problems that cities create: -crime and other social problems arising from lack of community -hugely expensive housing driven by high land prices -wasted lives commuting -environmental issues from high population densities -expensive

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-05 Thread Xavier Luminous
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 03:56:56PM +0100, Robert Lynn wrote: Flying cars can eliminate the need for cities, and many of the problems that cities create: -crime and other social problems arising from lack of community -hugely expensive housing driven by high land prices -wasted lives commuting

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Xavier Luminous xavier.lumin...@googlemail.com wrote: As hinted at by Jed and Eric, the problems you are describing are very US-centric, and I don't think flying cars are the way to address them. Jed and I live in Atlanta. The average one-way commute in

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-05 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Average European commute is ca. 33 minutes. That is perhaps something like 8 miles. I have less than 25 minutes if walking to the parking lot is accounted. As Xavier pointed out this problem with cities is mostly American problem due to bad city design. Other problem is with the distribution

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Craig Haynie
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 16:24 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: What is it with flying cars? It seems like the worst idea ever. Why not just rent a car at the airport? Even small airports usually have them. Anyway, here is the latest:

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Andre Blum
I agree that this one is particularly ugly. I liked the one that was in the Dutch news this week better: http://pal-v.com/ In some respect it has much in common with a trailer boat. It gives you the option to take it to another place to launch from and it gives you better storage/parking

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
They will become extremely popular and accessible to non pilots when robotic control and guidance through GPS (similar to google cars) would be available. Mass production would bring the price down and it will resolve many problems in terms of traffic and parking in urban centers (people could

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: They will become extremely popular and accessible to non pilots when robotic control and guidance through GPS (similar to google cars) would be available. I discuss this in the book. I do not think these will be popular in urban areas because

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The solution to the traffic problem is to stop going places. Reduce commuting distances with full screen video telecommuting from home and from satellite offices. Agreed. Make cities beautiful and livable and compact

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-04 Thread Drowning Trout
Evacuated Tube Transports would be way more beneficial than flying cars. http://www.et3.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92dK_yxaKvk On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: The

[Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
What is it with flying cars? It seems like the worst idea ever. Why not just rent a car at the airport? Even small airports usually have them. Anyway, here is the latest: http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/04/03/flying_cars_terrafugia_announced_flying_car_has_made_first_flight.html - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

2012-04-03 Thread James Bowery
The subconscious image that gives this idea legs is taking off/landing from/on your driveway or street. I suppose the gyrocopter-based vehicle (or other short takeoff/landing vehicle) might have some potential to break that out of the subconscious. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jed Rothwell