Re: [Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!

2009-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: I don't understand why power companies, even here, fight underground transmission so adamantly. Underground power cables are far more expensive to purchase, install and maintain. They usually need wholesale

Re: [Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!

2009-02-20 Thread R C Macaulay
Not to worry Terry, In 20 years each home will have it's own central utilities console that provide wastewater treatment, AC/ heating, and water recycling. There will be incoming electric power to supplement and water makeup. No sewer line. If this sounds extreme.. it is .. but so is the

Re: [Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!

2009-02-20 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 20, 2009, at 4:04 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: I don't understand why power companies, even here, fight underground transmission so adamantly. Underground power cables are far more expensive to purchase,

[Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!

2009-02-19 Thread Nick Palmer
Gnorts, This Australian company has just announced 60% electrical efficiency for their solid oxide microgeneration combined heat and power unit - 85% total efficiency! http://www.cfcl.com.au/ Nick Palmer On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it

Re: [Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!

2009-02-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Nick Palmer wrote: Gnorts, This Australian company has just announced 60% electrical efficiency for their solid oxide microgeneration combined heat and power unit - 85% total efficiency! http://www.cfcl.com.au/ Nick Palmer Note that counting the

Re: [Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!

2009-02-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Note that counting the useful (in Alaska anyway!) co-generated heat the CFCL fuel cell is 85% efficient. I guess 15% heat goes out with the exhaust gasses? And waste heat radiated from the body of the unit, if it is placed outdoors. Late model gas furnaces are better

Re: [Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!

2009-02-19 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Late model gas furnaces are better than 85% efficient, but of course they do not generate electricity! Oil burners are up to 85% these days, some even better. I think some SlantFin furnaces are a bit higher. Nevertheless, I loathe oil heat. For

Re: [Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!

2009-02-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kyle Mcallister wrote: This is true. However, caveat emptor: just because it will emit no CO at factory adjustment and when perfectly clean doesn't mean it won't if it gets out of adjustment, or gets dirty. Cat hair, dandruf, spiders, etc. can clog the thing. Dust will accumulate. Now, this

Re: [Vo]:more power - arrh, arrh!

2009-02-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I was a little concerned that it might asphyxiate someone standing next to the house, but he said there is no danger. I gather they put the pipe up in the air anyway. The pipe does not have be heavy or insulated. The present chimney goes