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I'm upgrading my Y2K shelter for b'ak'tun 13 and wonder if, in the light of this, I should include a Faraday cage? On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Time to get the tin-foil hats out of storage... I would not want to wear a tin-foil hat if the area around me were being irradiated with microwaves. Eric
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Yes On Friday, December 7, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: I'm upgrading my Y2K shelter for b'ak'tun 13 and wonder if, in the light of this, I should include a Faraday cage? On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netjavascript:; wrote: Time to get the tin-foil hats out of storage... I would not want to wear a tin-foil hat if the area around me were being irradiated with microwaves. Eric
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No longer bogosity: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2241525/The-Boeing-blitzing-drone-cripple-nations-electronics.html Down the years and across the universe, the heroes of science-fiction classics from Dan Dare to Star Wars and The Matrix have fought intergalactic battles with weapons that wipe out enemy electronics at the touch of a button. Now scientists have turned fantasy into reality by developing a missile that targets buildings with microwaves that disable computers but don’t harm people. Aircraft manufacturer Boeing successfully tested the weapon on a one-hour flight during which it knocked out the computers of an entire military compound in the Utah desert. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Interesting – yes. Bogosity index – extreme. A tomahawk cruise missile leaves no massive contrail. Most experts agreed the amount of visible vapor was either coming from a solid fuel rocket or a large jet. The contrail from a cruise missile would be two orders of magnitude less visible, based on the fuel burned and it would be lower on the horizon. A blogger did find a commercial flight that could have been responsible, but why this info did not immediately come from the FAA is a mystery. Another blogger suggested it was Meg Whitman’s reaction to the final bill from her campaign …. From: Terry Blanton This is a far more interesting explanation: Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm T
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Well... Not sure how much faith to put into this kind of story, but the sad part is that the military could do this kind of RD - whereas the energy sector could not even think about it due to cost and interference from special interests - so there are scary implications that demonstrate the kind of mess this country in. Curious that they surmise that the missile payload is a super-powerful microwave oven. Geeze, why not use that kind of power supply for LENR, or hot fusion, or subcritical fission - instead of mischief (knocking out a bunch of antique computers)? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton No longer bogosity: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2241525/The-Boeing-blitzing-d rone-cripple-nations-electronics.html Down the years and across the universe, the heroes of science-fiction classics from Dan Dare to Star Wars and The Matrix have fought intergalactic battles with weapons that wipe out enemy electronics at the touch of a button. Now scientists have turned fantasy into reality by developing a missile that targets buildings with microwaves that disable computers but don't harm people. Aircraft manufacturer Boeing successfully tested the weapon on a one-hour flight during which it knocked out the computers of an entire military compound in the Utah desert. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Interesting - yes. Bogosity index - extreme. A tomahawk cruise missile leaves no massive contrail. Most experts agreed the amount of visible vapor was either coming from a solid fuel rocket or a large jet. The contrail from a cruise missile would be two orders of magnitude less visible, based on the fuel burned and it would be lower on the horizon. A blogger did find a commercial flight that could have been responsible, but why this info did not immediately come from the FAA is a mystery. Another blogger suggested it was Meg Whitman's reaction to the final bill from her campaign .. From: Terry Blanton This is a far more interesting explanation: Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm T
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I would like to see the money spent on emf protection for the population. If the sun has a bad spell we may need to climb inside our Faraday cage microwave ovens for protection. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Jones Beene wrote: Well... Not sure how much faith to put into this kind of story, but the sad part is that the military could do this kind of RD - whereas the energy sector could not even think about it due to cost and interference from special interests - so there are scary implications that demonstrate the kind of mess this country in. Curious that they surmise that the missile payload is a super-powerful microwave oven. Geeze, why not use that kind of power supply for LENR, or hot fusion, or subcritical fission - instead of mischief (knocking out a bunch of antique computers)? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton No longer bogosity: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2241525/The-Boeing-blitzing-d rone-cripple-nations-electronics.html Down the years and across the universe, the heroes of science-fiction classics from Dan Dare to Star Wars and The Matrix have fought intergalactic battles with weapons that wipe out enemy electronics at the touch of a button. Now scientists have turned fantasy into reality by developing a missile that targets buildings with microwaves that disable computers but don't harm people. Aircraft manufacturer Boeing successfully tested the weapon on a one-hour flight during which it knocked out the computers of an entire military compound in the Utah desert. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.netjavascript:; wrote: Interesting - yes. Bogosity index - extreme. A tomahawk cruise missile leaves no massive contrail. Most experts agreed the amount of visible vapor was either coming from a solid fuel rocket or a large jet. The contrail from a cruise missile would be two orders of magnitude less visible, based on the fuel burned and it would be lower on the horizon. A blogger did find a commercial flight that could have been responsible, but why this info did not immediately come from the FAA is a mystery. Another blogger suggested it was Meg Whitman's reaction to the final bill from her campaign .. From: Terry Blanton This is a far more interesting explanation: Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm T
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From Jones: Well... Not sure how much faith to put into this kind of story, but the sad part is that the military could do this kind of RD - whereas the energy sector could not even think about it due to cost and interference from special interests - so there are scary implications that demonstrate the kind of mess this country in. I suspect Paradise Lost sez it best: Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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Time to get the tin-foil hats out of storage... ;-) -Mark -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:oops Well... Not sure how much faith to put into this kind of story, but the sad part is that the military could do this kind of RD - whereas the energy sector could not even think about it due to cost and interference from special interests - so there are scary implications that demonstrate the kind of mess this country in. Curious that they surmise that the missile payload is a super-powerful microwave oven. Geeze, why not use that kind of power supply for LENR, or hot fusion, or subcritical fission - instead of mischief (knocking out a bunch of antique computers)? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton No longer bogosity: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2241525/The-Boeing-blitzing-d rone-cripple-nations-electronics.html Down the years and across the universe, the heroes of science-fiction classics from Dan Dare to Star Wars and The Matrix have fought intergalactic battles with weapons that wipe out enemy electronics at the touch of a button. Now scientists have turned fantasy into reality by developing a missile that targets buildings with microwaves that disable computers but don't harm people. Aircraft manufacturer Boeing successfully tested the weapon on a one-hour flight during which it knocked out the computers of an entire military compound in the Utah desert. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Interesting - yes. Bogosity index - extreme. A tomahawk cruise missile leaves no massive contrail. Most experts agreed the amount of visible vapor was either coming from a solid fuel rocket or a large jet. The contrail from a cruise missile would be two orders of magnitude less visible, based on the fuel burned and it would be lower on the horizon. A blogger did find a commercial flight that could have been responsible, but why this info did not immediately come from the FAA is a mystery. Another blogger suggested it was Meg Whitman's reaction to the final bill from her campaign .. From: Terry Blanton This is a far more interesting explanation: Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm T
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Your suggestion to put on the aluminum hats begs a few questions. What is the instantaneous output power of the emitter? How many joules of energy would be deposited into that hat of yours due to this device? Is the damage to the electronics permanent or does it just cause a reset? If the damage is permanent, why? I could think of many more questions, but I have a feeling that there are going to be few answers submitted. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:24 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:oops Time to get the tin-foil hats out of storage... ;-) -Mark -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:oops Well... Not sure how much faith to put into this kind of story, but the sad part is that the military could do this kind of RD - whereas the energy sector could not even think about it due to cost and interference from special interests - so there are scary implications that demonstrate the kind of mess this country in. Curious that they surmise that the missile payload is a super-powerful microwave oven. Geeze, why not use that kind of power supply for LENR, or hot fusion, or subcritical fission - instead of mischief (knocking out a bunch of antique computers)? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton No longer bogosity: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2241525/The-Boeing-blitzing-d rone-cripple-nations-electronics.html Down the years and across the universe, the heroes of science-fiction classics from Dan Dare to Star Wars and The Matrix have fought intergalactic battles with weapons that wipe out enemy electronics at the touch of a button. Now scientists have turned fantasy into reality by developing a missile that targets buildings with microwaves that disable computers but don't harm people. Aircraft manufacturer Boeing successfully tested the weapon on a one-hour flight during which it knocked out the computers of an entire military compound in the Utah desert. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Interesting - yes. Bogosity index - extreme. A tomahawk cruise missile leaves no massive contrail. Most experts agreed the amount of visible vapor was either coming from a solid fuel rocket or a large jet. The contrail from a cruise missile would be two orders of magnitude less visible, based on the fuel burned and it would be lower on the horizon. A blogger did find a commercial flight that could have been responsible, but why this info did not immediately come from the FAA is a mystery. Another blogger suggested it was Meg Whitman's reaction to the final bill from her campaign .. From: Terry Blanton This is a far more interesting explanation: Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm T
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From the article, the damage to the electronics is permanent. My understanding is that the intense MW EM induces large voltage transients inside the ICs, probably causing dielectric breakdown or discharges inside it, ultimately 'frying the chip'. Oh, the Al-foil hats are for my computers, test equipment and cell phone, not me! ;-) -Mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 9:56 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:oops Your suggestion to put on the aluminum hats begs a few questions. What is the instantaneous output power of the emitter? How many joules of energy would be deposited into that hat of yours due to this device? Is the damage to the electronics permanent or does it just cause a reset? If the damage is permanent, why? I could think of many more questions, but I have a feeling that there are going to be few answers submitted. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:24 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:oops Time to get the tin-foil hats out of storage... ;-) -Mark -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net mailto:jone...@pacbell.net? ] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:oops Well... Not sure how much faith to put into this kind of story, but the sad part is that the military could do this kind of RD - whereas the energy sector could not even think about it due to cost and interference from special interests - so there are scary implications that demonstrate the kind of mess this country in. Curious that they surmise that the missile payload is a super-powerful microwave oven. Geeze, why not use that kind of power supply for LENR, or hot fusion, or subcritical fission - instead of mischief (knocking out a bunch of antique computers)? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton No longer bogosity: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2241525/The-Boeing-blitzing-d rone-cripple-nations-electronics.html Down the years and across the universe, the heroes of science-fiction classics from Dan Dare to Star Wars and The Matrix have fought intergalactic battles with weapons that wipe out enemy electronics at the touch of a button. Now scientists have turned fantasy into reality by developing a missile that targets buildings with microwaves that disable computers but don't harm people. Aircraft manufacturer Boeing successfully tested the weapon on a one-hour flight during which it knocked out the computers of an entire military compound in the Utah desert. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Interesting - yes. Bogosity index - extreme. A tomahawk cruise missile leaves no massive contrail. Most experts agreed the amount of visible vapor was either coming from a solid fuel rocket or a large jet. The contrail from a cruise missile would be two orders of magnitude less visible, based on the fuel burned and it would be lower on the horizon. A blogger did find a commercial flight that could have been responsible, but why this info did not immediately come from the FAA is a mystery. Another blogger suggested it was Meg Whitman's reaction to the final bill from her campaign .. From: Terry Blanton This is a far more interesting explanation: Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm T
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So the damage is permanent and caused by shorting out the chip for a very short time period. I guess the power supply then completes the job by supplying the large DC current that burns out the devices. That makes sense if the instantaneous power is sufficient. Mark, I thought you were concerned about your own health! I would expect that a thin aluminum cover would easily reflect the incoming energy away from anything enclosed. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:04 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:oops From the article, the damage to the electronics is permanent. My understanding is that the intense MW EM induces large voltage transients inside the ICs, probably causing dielectric breakdown or discharges inside it, ultimately ‘frying the chip’… Oh, the Al-foil hats are for my computers, test equipment and cell phone, not me! ;-) -Mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 9:56 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:oops Your suggestion to put on the aluminum hats begs a few questions. What is the instantaneous output power of the emitter? How many joules of energy would be deposited into that hat of yours due to this device? Is the damage to the electronics permanent or does it just cause a reset? If the damage is permanent, why? I could think of many more questions, but I have a feeling that there are going to be few answers submitted. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:24 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:oops Time to get the tin-foil hats out of storage... ;-) -Mark -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:oops Well... Not sure how much faith to put into this kind of story, but the sad part is that the military could do this kind of RD - whereas the energy sector could not even think about it due to cost and interference from special interests - so there are scary implications that demonstrate the kind of mess this country in. Curious that they surmise that the missile payload is a super-powerful microwave oven. Geeze, why not use that kind of power supply for LENR, or hot fusion, or subcritical fission - instead of mischief (knocking out a bunch of antique computers)? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton No longer bogosity: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2241525/The-Boeing-blitzing-d rone-cripple-nations-electronics.html Down the years and across the universe, the heroes of science-fiction classics from Dan Dare to Star Wars and The Matrix have fought intergalactic battles with weapons that wipe out enemy electronics at the touch of a button. Now scientists have turned fantasy into reality by developing a missile that targets buildings with microwaves that disable computers but don't harm people. Aircraft manufacturer Boeing successfully tested the weapon on a one-hour flight during which it knocked out the computers of an entire military compound in the Utah desert. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Interesting - yes. Bogosity index - extreme. A tomahawk cruise missile leaves no massive contrail. Most experts agreed the amount of visible vapor was either coming from a solid fuel rocket or a large jet. The contrail from a cruise missile would be two orders of magnitude less visible, based on the fuel burned and it would be lower on the horizon. A blogger did find a commercial flight that could have been responsible, but why this info did not immediately come from the FAA is a mystery. Another blogger suggested it was Meg Whitman's reaction to the final bill from her campaign .. From: Terry Blanton This is a far more interesting explanation: Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm T
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On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: Time to get the tin-foil hats out of storage... I would not want to wear a tin-foil hat if the area around me were being irradiated with microwaves. Eric
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Interesting - yes. Bogosity index - extreme. A tomahawk cruise missile leaves no massive contrail. Most experts agreed the amount of visible vapor was either coming from a solid fuel rocket or a large jet. The contrail from a cruise missile would be two orders of magnitude less visible, based on the fuel burned and it would be lower on the horizon. A blogger did find a commercial flight that could have been responsible, but why this info did not immediately come from the FAA is a mystery. Another blogger suggested it was Meg Whitman's reaction to the final bill from her campaign .. From: Terry Blanton This is a far more interesting explanation: Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm T
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We don't know what it was but it was not a threat to the homeland. Move along. Nothing to see here. I feel so reassured. T
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On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Especially if you google “Sea Launch” recently out of Chapter 11 and located nearby, and realize who is the new owner http://www.sea-launch.com/news_releases/2010/nr_101027.html http://www.sea-launch.com/news_releases/2010/nr_101027.html Energia Logistics Ltd., a U.S. corporation, will assume management of rocket assembly and satellite integration operations at the existing Sea Launch Home Port facilities. A Moscow-based EOL-affiliate will manage supply chain operations of all CIS-based primary and second-tier suppliers for the Sea Launch system. The reliable Zenit-3SL launch system and its experienced operations team, with a history of 30 launches to date, will continue to support future launches. ROFLMAO! 13 Days in November another Kevin Costner hit! A Water World irony. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146309/ T
