Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-20 Thread Robert Dorr
. It is getting a little late in the season to try it out. -Original Message- From: Robert Dorr rod...@comcast.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:33 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat Frank; I made the assumption you are on a city type

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-19 Thread Robert Dorr
Frank, How about just using black hose running in a back and forth direction from the bottom of your roof to its apex, with a temperature sensitive valve at the apex point, and a black hose, from the apex, running down the sunny side of your house into the hot water container in your

Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-19 Thread mixent
In reply to fznidar...@aol.com's message of Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:36:46 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] I can think of no way to place the hose on the roof and get it to work. If the hose is lower than the tank it conveys hot water to the tank and shuts down the loop current when the sun goes down thus

Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-19 Thread fznidarsic
Frank, How about just using black hose running in a back and forth direction from the bottom of your roof to its apex, with a temperature sensitive valve at the apex point, and a black hose, from the apex, running down the sunny side of your house into the hot water container in your

Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-19 Thread Robert Dorr
Frank; I made the assumption you are on a city type pressurized water system, therefore no need to lift to roof. If your not, I see the dilemma. Pretty hard to do without some type of pump. Bob At 05:24 PM 9/19/2012, you wrote: Frank, How about just using black hose running in a back

Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-19 Thread fznidarsic
and many have enough reserve lift to carry the cold water up. It is getting a little late in the season to try it out. -Original Message- From: Robert Dorr rod...@comcast.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:33 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

[Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-18 Thread fznidarsic
I know of a few locations where it would be nice to have passive solar hot water in the summer. I have noted that a black garden hose in the sun produces hot water. The hose could be placed on a roof. The problem is getting this heat into a storage tank passively. The hot water tank would

Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-18 Thread Mark Gibbs
How about keeping the tank on the roof and using a thermosiphon [1] or, better still, a passive vapor heat pipe [2] to transfer heat to the tank from a collector below? The height difference between the collector and the tank would only have to be a foot or two and you'd want the tank on the roof

RE: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-18 Thread Jones Beene
Is there any fluid that sinks when heated? Frank Znidarsic Doubt it since it would hint at suppressed vibrational modes - OTOH - there is one candidate that I know of - a complex sugar molecule that turns solid on heating, and then reverts to liquid on cooling.

Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-18 Thread mixent
In reply to fznidar...@aol.com's message of Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:42:46 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] I know of a few locations where it would be nice to have passive solar hot water in the summer. I have noted that a black garden hose in the sun produces hot water. The hose could be placed on a

RE: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-18 Thread Jones Beene
Frank, The problem is getting this heat into a storage tank passively. The hot water tank would have to be mounted higher than the hose. I would like to employ the ordinary basement hot water tank. Hot water rises and will not go down to the basement tank. Here is an idea for a system where

Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-18 Thread fznidarsic
in the tank. If I ever figure this out, it will not be cold fusion, however, it could be a nice product. Frank Z -Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:48 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat In reply

Fwd: [Vo]:question about passive solar heat

2012-09-18 Thread fznidarsic
What about this? I run a black and white hose up the sunny side of the house from the basement. The bottom of the circulating loop is lower than the tank. I splice the bottom of the loop in with a T that connects to the tank drain. Frank