[Vo]:the decline of cold fusion

2008-04-21 Thread fznidarsic
Were you not aware of this trend? It has been clear for many years that cold 
fusion is dying, because the researchers themselves are retiring and dying. 
This is what I described in the introduction to my book. I am not optimistic 
that the field will survive. 
- Jed


How can that be?   SPWAR has detected high energy reactions from a cold fusion 
system.
This is no small thing.  Then the field dies.





I don't understand.





Frank Z


Re: [Vo]:the decline of cold fusion

2008-04-21 Thread Jed Rothwell

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How can that be?   SPWAR has detected high energy reactions from a 
cold fusion system.


This is no small thing.  Then the field dies.


I do not think the SPWAR results have been replicated to everyone's 
satisfaction yet. Certainly the Russians have doubts, and they are 
experts in CR-39. The issue is somewhat over my head.


Anyway, the field is dying because the researchers themselves are 
dying, and not being replaced by younger researchers. If you ask a 
skeptic why, he will say this is one of Langmuir's criteria for 
pathological science: The ratio of supporters to critics rises to 
somewhere near 50% and then falls gradually into oblivion. If you 
ask me, I say: The field has been crushed by rabid academic politics, 
and the suppression of academic freedom.




I don't understand.


Come now. It isn't hard to understand.

- Jed



Re: [Vo]:the decline of cold fusion

2008-04-21 Thread Harry Veeder
Jed,
Perhaps detractors help to maintain interest in the subject,
but they are dying off too.

harry





On 21/4/2008 3:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How can that be?   SPWAR has detected high energy reactions from a
 cold fusion system.
 
 This is no small thing.  Then the field dies.
 
 I do not think the SPWAR results have been replicated to everyone's
 satisfaction yet. Certainly the Russians have doubts, and they are
 experts in CR-39. The issue is somewhat over my head.
 
 Anyway, the field is dying because the researchers themselves are
 dying, and not being replaced by younger researchers. If you ask a
 skeptic why, he will say this is one of Langmuir's criteria for
 pathological science: The ratio of supporters to critics rises to
 somewhere near 50% and then falls gradually into oblivion. If you
 ask me, I say: The field has been crushed by rabid academic politics,
 and the suppression of academic freedom.
 
 
 I don't understand.
 
 Come now. It isn't hard to understand.
 
 - Jed
 



Re: [Vo]:the decline of cold fusion

2008-04-21 Thread Jed Rothwell

Harry Veeder wrote:


Perhaps detractors help to maintain interest in the subject,
but they are dying off too.


Perhaps they do help maintain interest, but they do not increase to 
the number of peer-reviewed papers published per year, which is the 
metric Leitz measured. By that standard there is no question cold 
fusion is dying.


The late anti-cold fusion skeptic Douglas Morrison made a big deal 
about decline in the number of papers. He thought that meant the 
subject is pathological.


He also made a big deal about what he called the Regionalization of 
results and what I called Arian Science Numerology. Not to put too 
fine a point on it, he believed that only white Northern European 
people do real science, and he said that positive cold fusion results 
were all those garlic eating Souther European Italians and Greeks, 
and by Orientals and other unwashed hoards.


He didn't put it quite like that, but that was the message.

He was banging that drum long before cold fusion came along. Gene 
Mallove sent me some snippets of Morrison's pre-cold fusion lectures 
on the intellectual superiority of the White Northern European races.


To be fair, such attitudes were common decades ago. Morrison was no 
worse that many people of his generation.


- Jed



Re: [Vo]:the decline of cold fusion

2008-04-21 Thread R C Macaulay
All science research is cumulative and stimulates the imagination. There are 
ongoing studies and adjacent research. I choose to believe that Dr.Ron 
Stiffler has the energy and drive to open a few doors with his experiments. 
May even find something he wasn't looking for.. this often happens to the 
dedicated scientist.
Richard