Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 24, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner It is somewhat frustrating to me that no one seems to have ever read, or if so, understood what I have written... It requires time for us mere mortals - a considerable time of study

Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:21:56 -0400: Hi, [snip] How Does Hagelstein Explain Energetic Alphas? Theoretical Speculations on “Upper Limits”: “The alpha particle must be born with an energy less than 20.3 KeV.” (Pay no attention to Lipson et al. 2002 – 11-16

Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: BTW I find the whole idea of using the volume of the cathode to compare energy densities proving some form of fusion to be silly. Clearly the volume of electrolyte is of far more consequence, given that it is this which contains the putative fuel anyway. I

Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 24, 2010, at 1:42 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:21:56 -0400: Hi, [snip] How Does Hagelstein Explain Energetic Alphas? Theoretical Speculations on “Upper Limits”: “The alpha particle must be born with an energy less

Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread Horace Heffner
I just wrote: I think this is a misunderstanding of what the 20.3 keV represents. It does not represent the Q of the reaction. It represents an (experimental) upper limit on the kinetic energy the 4He obtains from the reaction. This is not at all a surprising result if, as I and various

Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:42 PM 3/24/2010, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I haven't read Hagelstein's paper, but it seems to me that one must base any such analysis on individual experiments where both He and heat are measured concurrently and as precisely as possible. Read the paper. It's not about what you think

Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:37 PM 3/24/2010, Horace Heffner wrote: On Mar 24, 2010, at 1:42 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:21:56 -0400: Hi, [snip] How Does Hagelstein Explain Energetic Alphas? Theoretical Speculations on “Upper Limits”: “The

Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:21 PM 3/24/2010, Horace Heffner wrote: This was a wandering mind tying. 8^) It should say: I think this is a misunderstanding of what the 20.3 keV represents. It does not represent the Q of the reaction. It represents an (experimental) upper limit on the kinetic energy the 4He obtains

Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 07:21 PM 3/24/2010, Horace Heffner wrote: This was a wandering mind tying. 8^) It should say: I think this is a misunderstanding of what the 20.3 keV represents. It does not represent the Q of the reaction. It represents an

RE: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Horace Heffner It is somewhat frustrating to me that no one seems to have ever read, or if so, understood what I have written... It requires time for us mere mortals - a considerable time of study contemplation (not to mention procrastination) before the

Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA

2010-03-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:11 PM 3/24/2010, Jed Rothwell wrote: Robin van Spaandonk wrote: BTW I find the whole idea of using the volume of the cathode to compare energy densities proving some form of fusion to be silly. Clearly the volume of electrolyte is of far more consequence, given that it is this which