Hi,
On 5-6-2013 1:49, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
I'm not arguing for banning Joshua Cude. I'm saying he should be
given a timeout, to return in one day (if he wishes) but then he has
an assigned thread that he will be expected to babysit. The thread
would be something like Joshua Cude Returns.
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
But at what point does this incessant (IMO) kind posting behavior
considered a nuisance and hindrance to on-going Vortex discussions?
It is not a problem. Just filter the messages out. Frankly, I do not see
why you raise the
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:35:47 -0500
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
wrote:
Mr. Beaty,
When I opened up my mail box this morning I was flooded with over 40 posted
messages from Joshua Cude. And it's only 7:10 AM in the morning. I know of
no one within the Vort
The guy is a liar. I showed how he's doing his probability wrong, because
he assumes EVERY one of 14,700 replications is in error. He just keeps
repeating his error:
No, you don't know your mathematics, because that's like saying that the
chance of rolling 10 sixes out of 60 dice is (1/6)^10.
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
The guy is a liar.
I doubt that. I get a sense he is somewhat innumerate. People who claim
that 14,700 tests are all errors do not have a strong grasp of probability,
or the basis of experimental science.
I am sure he sincerely believes that. No one
a bunch of untrained idiots to promote it.
-Mark
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:46 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
The guy
Scientific background's can be manufactured on the spot. Big deal!
Ruby Carat
Bachelor's in Physics
Master's in Math
Free jazz musician
(All true)
Best credential? No afraid to ask questions and admit ignorance.
But I sure don't want to confuse Cude with my booklearnin...
On 6/4/13
... at what point does this incessant (IMO) kind posting behavior
considered
a nuisance and hindrance to on-going Vortex discussions? Now, if Cude is
genuinely making a good contribution I'll have nothing more to say on
this matter. But it would be interesting to hear a consensus on how
inputs escape rebuttal.
My responses to Cude are hereby reduced to near zero since he offers little to
the discussions.
Dave
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From: Robert Ellefson vortex-h...@e2ke.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 12:17 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Over 40 messages
[mailto:vorl@antichef.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:35:47 -0500
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
wrote:
Mr. Beaty,
When I opened up my
AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4
Robert,
Please forgive me for responding to Cude and perhaps allowing his non sense to
escape the filter. I will restrict that situation from this point forth. I
feel badly for how I have
should be able to see it.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Vorl Bek [mailto:vorl@antichef.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:23 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:35:47 -0500
OrionWorks - Steven
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
you admit that you haven’t read most of his postings so you haven’t a
clue. He is a liar. His goal is to debunk. That should be obvious.
On 5/31:
“Man, this place is crawling with ignoramuses.”
** **
on 6/1:
“It's funny
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:28:12 -0700
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Vorl:
You haven't a clue either...
When it comes to LENR, there is overwhelming evidence
Then why haven't MIT and GE noticed the overwhelming evidence and
taken out patents so they can add a trillion or so
I agree, the contribution by Cude has long since lost its value. His
issues have been discussed and answered several times. He is never
going to accept the basic claims, so why bother. Nevertheless, his
response is answered and the the answer creates a response, with no
end in sight.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
If you do not like to read this sort of thing just block his messages.
What is the big deal?
***When lurkers come on over to Vortex, they might read one thread but the
vast majority don't read all the threads. On one
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
When it comes to LENR, there is overwhelming evidence
Then why haven't MIT and GE noticed the overwhelming evidence and
taken out patents so they can add a trillion or so to their bottom
lines?
Because they are unaware of the results. They have
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
***When lurkers come on over to Vortex, they might read one thread but the
vast majority don't read all the threads. On one thread I proved that
Joshua Cude was off by more than 4500 orders of magnitude. He goes
silent. Then on another thread he
What he said. I whacked, unread, those forty odd, and here I am reading
and deleting, one-by-one, forty or so responses. Enough of this.
Ol' Bab
On 6/4/2013 12:15 PM, Robert Ellefson wrote:
... at what point does this incessant (IMO) kind posting behavior considered
a nuisance and
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
As I said the other day, if this test was of competing coffee
makers, and they chose brand A as the best one, I would probably
accept their recommendation rather than demanding more tests . . .
Measuring the difference between 300 Watts and 900 Watts is
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:29:27 -0400
Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
The fact that these measurements have enormous
implications has no bearing on...how believable they are.
Of course it does. Do you think GE will be beating down Rossi's
doors because of this one test?
; but
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
Of course it does. Do you think GE will be beating down Rossi's
doors because of this one test?
No, as I said, they know nothing about this.
Again let me urge you to look at history. Look after Marshall proved that
Helicobacter pylor people ignored him,
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:46:16 -0400
Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
Of course it does. Do you think GE will be beating down Rossi's
doors because of this one test?
No, as I said, they know nothing about this.
I doubt GE got to where it
I stopped reading his 40 posts at about the #10 mark, and skipped responses to
them too.
I don't think I missed anything significant.
I DID think that his poolboy/taxi-driver comment was very funny. There MAY be a
human being under all the robo posts after all.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
The Wikipedia article was nonsense from start to finish, when I last
checked it a few years ago.
***And by doing nothing about dishonest debunkers, Vortex will become the
same.
So... some Vorts want to see him
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
No, as I said, they know nothing about this.
I doubt GE got to where it is without an efficient intelligence
service that keeps them up-to-date on anything that could
increase, or threaten, their bottom line.
I have been in contact with people at GE.
I meant to say: EPRI is the only major organization that knows anything
about McKubre's work and they also said it is real.
They do not fund the research because of academic and corporate politics.
- Jed
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:15:23 -0400
Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Please stop the nonsense. You said that right here:
That is true. The risk for Levi is negligible and he can always claim
ignorance. Levi has very steady job at university and his pay roll is
determined solely by
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
So If Levi is making few dozens of kiloeuros extra money with Rossi with
very little efforts, his involvement is more than justified. . . .
Did you mean that, or not? Do you think Levi is conspiring to defraud
people, or not?
Again, I did not say
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
The Wikipedia article was nonsense from start to finish, when I last
checked it a few years ago.
***And by doing nothing about dishonest debunkers, Vortex will become the
same.
I do not see the similarity. At Wikipedia, when they disagree with
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:48:10 -0400
Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
You are right! You did not say that. Jouni Valkonen did. I somehow got the
messages mixed up. My apologies.
No problem.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:24 PM, David L Babcock ol...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
What he said. I whacked, unread, those forty odd, and here I am reading and
deleting, one-by-one, forty or so responses. Enough of this.
JC is considerate to post all his responses at one time making them
easier to
I'm not arguing for banning Joshua Cude. I'm saying he should be given a
timeout, to return in one day (if he wishes) but then he has an assigned
thread that he will be expected to babysit. The thread would be something
like Joshua Cude Returns. Anyone can log onto that thread and point out
Vorl sez:
...
Others on this list post far more often than Cude,
but you have nothing to say about them; it seems to
me you just want to shut Cude up because you do not
like what he says.
You're absolutely correct that I don't like what Mr. Cude, or whomever
he/she really is,
Jed sez:
But at what point does this incessant (IMO) kind posting
behavior considered a nuisance and hindrance to on-going
Vortex discussions?
It is not a problem. Just filter the messages out.
Frankly, I do not see why you raise the issue.
As previously stated I already started filtering
From Mr. Murray:
...
I'm glad Joshua Cude is married and has to balance a life against
his brisk practice to pinpointing and summarizing evidence that
cold fusion claims are erroneous
Whoa! You state Joshua is married? Have you been carrying on a private
conversation with him? Did
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