Re: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:14:57 -0700: Hi, [snip] >-Original Message- > >>Since bosons can occupy the same place > >RVS: No they can't. They can occupy the same quantum state, that is not the >same thing as the same physical location. > >Robin, > >We have bee

RE: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-28 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Paper on the active particle of LENR -Original Message- >Since bosons can occupy the same place RVS: No they can't. They can occupy the same quantum state, that is not the same thing as the same physical location. Robin, We have been through this before. Some bosons, for instance

RE: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-27 Thread Jones Beene
Here is the story of a BEC composed of billions of photons occupying the same space, and accomplished at room temp. http://www.livescience.com/10288-kind-light-created-physics-breakthrough.htm l Think about this in the context of LENR: The photonic BEC is said to have characteristics of matter. I

RE: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-27 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- >Since bosons can occupy the same place RVS: No they can't. They can occupy the same quantum state, that is not the same thing as the same physical location. Robin, We have been through this before. Some bosons, for instance photons, can and do occupy the same space s

Re: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-27 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Sun, 26 Jun 2016 14:33:02 -0800: Hi, [snip] Jones wrote: >Since bosons can occupy the same place No they can't. They can occupy the same quantum state, that is not the same thing as the same physical location. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.free

Re: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-27 Thread Ken Deboer
could not find anything about the power density of the > reaction in the Ukrainian paper. > > > > Bob Cook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > >

RE: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-26 Thread Bob Cook
986> for Windows 10 From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:00 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR From: Bob Cook But how does the ‘anomalous heat’ get out of

RE: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-26 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook But how does the ‘anomalous heat’ get out of the reaction site? Is it by spin coupling of the reacting coherent system, which includes the metal lattice? What’s wrong with regular convection? Think of it as sequential phase-change, which is continuous over time. It’s j

RE: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-26 Thread Bob Cook
: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR The active particle, which is dense neutral hydrogen, brings to mind a recurrent theme in LENR, which is D/H exchange – and the further possibility of asymmetry in the exchange reaction itself. This kind of isotope

RE: [Vo]:Ukrainian Paper on the active particle of LENR

2016-06-26 Thread Jones Beene
The active particle, which is dense neutral hydrogen, brings to mind a recurrent theme in LENR, which is D/H exchange - and the further possibility of asymmetry in the exchange reaction itself. This kind of isotope exchange is energetic and ends up looking like LENR but it relates to the zero