RE: [Vo]:Verisimilitude, lies, and true lies Part 1

2012-02-03 Thread Jones Beene
Mark, Thanks for remembering this thread. It is definitely worth revisiting in the context of a number of issues related to finding the proper and ultimate source of gain in Ni-H. I had actually delayed moving on to a Part 2 of this premise for a number of reasons including apparent lack of

Re: [Vo]:Verisimilitude, lies, and true lies Part 1

2012-02-03 Thread Axil Axil
CERN has spent $ten billion and counting to verify how particles get their mass from the Higgs field. As I understand the Higgs theory (whose implications about the acquisition of mass by particles I might not fully comprehend) the Higgs mechanism is a process that is *universal and constant *

Re: [Vo]:Verisimilitude, lies, and true lies Part 1

2012-02-03 Thread Harry Veeder
IMO, the quest to explain origin of inertia (mass) in terms of an energy field (higgs field) is topsy-turvy, because historically and logically the concept of inertia is more basic than than the concept energy. Energy is a derived concept. It is like trying to explain the origin of Judaism in

RE: [Vo]:Verisimilitude, lies, and true lies Part 1

2012-02-02 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Jones: You might want to follow this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg35942.html The quote from the PhysOrg article which starts the thread is this: So you have one set of data that tells you the mass-dependence picture doesn't work and another that tells you the

RE: [Vo]:Verisimilitude, lies, and true lies Part 1

2012-01-21 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Dam you Jones!! We have company coming over in 30 mins and I can't read this yet :-) BTW, the fact that, your posting earlier that two protons can attract each other under rare and specific conditions would be *expected* under my qualitative model expressed this past year. Man, I

Re: [Vo]:Verisimilitude, lies, and true lies Part 1

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Man, I hope the dinner guests don't stay too long... Go salt the food, man. T