In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:01:28
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Hi,
[snip]
Extracting more biomass out of North American land is lunacy. We
should be putting it back, letting forests regrow and leaving more
fields fallow.
The soil is really mined primarily through loss of trace
Much of the criticism about ethanol is simple pessimism, and ignores the
likelihood that the technology will improve as it develops.
www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1556439.htm
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006
Another hydrocarbon economy.
Harry
Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://www.slate.com/id/2135236/nav/tap2/
And especially this, from last year, describing Pimentel and Patzek's
conclusions:
http://www.slate.com/id/2122961/
- Jed
Zell, Chris wrote:
Much of the criticism about ethanol is simple pessimism, and ignores the
likelihood that the technology will improve as it develops.
A terrific amount of money has been invested in the technology and it
has not improved much. Industry spokesmen claim a 30% net gain
which
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:51 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Bush and ethanol in Slate.com
Zell, Chris wrote:
Much of the criticism about ethanol is simple pessimism, and ignores
the likelihood
Zell, Chris wrote:
A terrific amount of money has been invested in the technology and it
has not improved much. Industry spokesmen claim a 30% net gain
which is abysmal. If that is the best they can do, the industry should
be shut down immediately.
And , of course, the same statement applies
We can burn ethanol in cars right now. There are no cold fusion
cars. We are still waiting for a commercially available unit, so,
you're quite right,
ethanol and cold fusion aren't comparable.
Since we are in the realm of mythology, you can believe whatever
you wish about
Zell, Chris wrote:
Since we are in the realm of mythology, you can believe
whatever you wish about oil companies - but their LEADERS
explicitly state that NIMBYism is behind the fact that the US
hasn't built a refinery since 1976.
Oil company leaders are remarkable people, but they
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