--- Keith Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As you say, I wouldn't expect the > permeability > of the rod to matter much, given the geometry, but > a permeable rod would tend to be drawn in and stay > in the center counter to what is seen.
Also notice upon observing the photos on Jean-Louis' experiment page on this, and the old ATG page, the steel rod is ejected from the small toroid side in one case, and the large toroid side in the other case. This sounds very much like a basic 'coil gun' effect. The different sizes of the two toroids will probably set up a field gradient, and cause the ejection of the rods as opposed to the pulling in effect. It would be harder to get a balance with the two different sizes. I did some tests tonight, not long ago. Wound a larger toroid, about an inch diameter, and a smaller one, about 1/2 inch diameter. 22AWG magnet wire used, pulsed with 50VDC from a 22,000uF capacitor (size of a soup can..older but still got its ginger). This will flip over small screws which are balanced on one end, will appear to 'jerk' slighly if supported by its lead wires. The jerking effect corresponds well to the introduction of a nearby permanent magnet. Reverse the magnet or the polarity to the coils, and the motion reverses. I held this thing in my hand as well when pulsing it, from either the 22,000uF cap or by make and break contact with a 12V car battery. You can feel the windings 'jumping'. Straightforward magnetic induction effects as near as I can see. Also, this effect works if you just use the large toroid....it will move around metal pieces a bit on its own. As to there being said to be no field in the center of the toroids, this is not true. There is a magnetic field there, the toroid itself is a 1 turn solenoidal coil, with the windings just wrapped 'funny'. These will, upon connecting DC to them, attempt to align themselves with the Earth's magnetic field (or the field of a nearby permanent magnet). As far as the laser thing goes, it could be either due to the toroids flexing a bit, and the edges of windings which come into the outer fringes of the beam 'lens' it, or heating of the air in the center causing changes in its optical properties. (Ever seen 'heat shimmer' over a hot road?) No easy way of telling without reproducing it. Would be interesting to try the same laser experiment with a regular solenoidal type coil. I'm not an optics guy, so I don't have much to add here. One other thing, if you use two toroids which are wound exactly the same, they will tend to attract to one another. If you use two toroids which are wound so as to give the same direction of B field in the ferrite, but one is wound counterclockwise around the periphery, and the other is wound clockwise, they will tend to repel one another. This seems to prove the 1-turn solenoid hypothesis: in the first case, the internal B fields are the same way, and the current is flowing in the same directions around the periphery, so unlike magnetic poles are set up on the sides of the toroids which are facing each other, and they attract...in the second case, the internal B fields are going the same way alright, but the periphery currents are flowing in opposite directions, thus setting up like poles on the toroid sides facing each other, and making them repel. Simple magnetism at its finest. > Also, you ( Kyle ) posted earlier on the FTL thread. > Sadly, I've been mad busy on my new software product > to keep on that thread, but I found it rather > amusing > that you in fact have already done one of the FTL > experiments as described by Nimtz, namely the double > prism microwave experiment you described to me > earlier > in the year. Hehehe....yes, amazing what can be done with a few pounds of paraffin wax, an old cardboard box, duct tape, a heat gun and a hacksaw. And the generous help of the college telecommunications department who provided the microwave transmitter/receiver equipment. Thanks for the URL, I will check it out! I was not able to try and measure the speed of signals through this device to any accurate degree, but it would be interesting to try in the future. If it doesn't do FTL, at least you can make some candles out of the wax. ;) --Kyle __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com