Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 12:06 PM 12/18/2009, Mauro Lacy wrote:
You maintain this business as long as you can, and when things are
starting to get murky(really murky) and profits are falling, you
suddenly fire all your employeess, close offices, and disappear in your
private jet, to
At 03:42 PM 12/18/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
However, bilked may not be it. Rather, he set up a speculative
investment opportunity for people, under this particular theory:
now that you know we don't actually have anything yet -- we might
find the magic wand waving
At 03:46 PM 12/18/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Not the end of the ad, but the end of the
sequence of damning quotes. But the sequence of quotes takes up
most of the ad, and I found the inclusion of the quote from their
own jury as the last one in the sequence more
Steorn has completed their first real-time lecture/demo concerning the
mysterious ORBO device. Sean promises there will be additional on-line
demonstrations soon.
Since I'm not a trained electrical engineer I'm not qualified to judge the
accuracy of the technical terminology bandied about,
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
So, it's hard to see how it could be structured as a Ponzi scheme.
How would you know?
Yes. It's possible that early investors haven't been paid off . . .
If the early investors are paid off, they would be criminally liable, along
with the company. Any wealthy
On 12/19/2009 01:13 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Steorn only presents one piece of actually damning evidence: the jury,
I don't agree. They quote a number of well known, well respected
sources saying that they have *nothing*. You may not respect the
Economist or the WSJ but you can
On 12/19/2009 02:17 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
And, BTW, those VCs, who are not stupid, are also not going to ignore it
if a wide array of respectable journals say Steorn ain't got nuttin'.
This, too, makes me wonder about that ad -- your strongly held belief
that the folks at Steorn are
On 12/19/2009 01:23 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
Steorn has completed their first real-time lecture/demo concerning the
mysterious ORBO device. Sean promises there will be additional on-line
demonstrations soon.
Since I'm not a trained electrical engineer I'm not qualified
Even if you totally eliminated BEMF you would not achieve overunity.
Terry
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:50:33 -0500:
Hi,
Even if you totally eliminated BEMF you would not achieve overunity.
Terry
You have this backwards. BEMF is what makes electric motors efficient. Were it
not for BEMF, they would be a dead short and consume vast amounts
how do we find this
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 5:42 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
According to one of my latest Google news alerts Steorn just made CNN
news. However, I can't seem to find the link anywhere on cnn's web
site.
Does anyone know anything about
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:57:03 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Shoulder to Shoulder with Chicea:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ChiceaDelectroncl.pdf
[snip]
Quote:
The total energy produced by the reactions induced by the collected deuterons
is not enough
to break the
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:51:57 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
For this to happen as a single event, all must be at the same place at the
same time. This condition describes what can be called a super-cluster. For
all members of the cluster to enter at the same time, they must
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
I have already described this bonding state in a previous post. It occurs
because the inter nuclear magnetic bond is stronger for small Hydrino
molecules than it is for normal Hydrogen, and the smaller the molecule, the
stronger the bond.
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
You have this backwards.
That's not unusual for me.
BEMF is what makes electric motors efficient.
It's what generates torque in an AC motor.
Were it
not for BEMF, they would be a dead short and consume vast amounts of power.
You
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:58:53 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Awkshully, this is more towards Ed's rationale - in that he sees the
deuterium as a quasi or temporary BEC (Bose condensate). That would be more
of an analogy to Faberge eggs, but I presume that Russian Dolls is a
See:
Kitamura, A., et al., Anomalous effects in charging of Pd powders
with high density hydrogen isotopes. Phys. Lett. A, 2009. 273(35): p.
3109-3112.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KitamuraAanomalouse.pdf
Prof. Kitamura went to a lot of trouble to get permission from the
publisher to allow
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:11:58 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
You have this backwards.
That's not unusual for me.
BEMF is what makes electric motors efficient.
It's what generates torque in an AC motor.
Torque
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:20:59 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Stated simply, much of the expected excess energy was already given up prior
to the actual nuclear reaction, via the non-nuclear shrinkage reaction
which pushed it below ground state, giving up heat in the form of UV
At 04:46 PM 12/18/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
-- I think it's unlikely that they're cash positive right now, if we
leave cash flow from stock sales off the balance sheet. But, that
doesn't really matter much; with repeated rounds of financing,
companies can go for years in a
tl;dr
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 04:46 PM 12/18/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Esa Ruoho wrote:
tl;dr
My thoughts exactly. Speculation has indeed run rampant!
- Jed
so, is there anything any of you would like me to do at the waterways
thingo? i'll be there around tuesday. i've been asked by a friend to take a
close-up photo of the battery, and just generally wave my iphone around the
motor (since the current cameras arent really closeup enough).. and uhh
At 05:43 PM 12/18/2009, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Mongo want to see a light bulb real soon.
No light bulb soon, Mongo send candygram to Sean.
Light bulb! Light bulb! Light bulb!
Steorn response simple: light bulb. Lights up. What does that mean?
Or not. Whatever they think will
At 05:27 PM 12/18/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 12/18/2009 02:31 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 11:02 PM 12/17/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Sounds good. But magicians don't usually start by working to convince
everyone that they are incompetent liars. That's a label nobody wants
Hi Robin,
JB: Stated simply, much of the expected excess energy was already given up
prior
to the actual nuclear reaction, via the non-nuclear shrinkage reaction
which pushed it below ground state, giving up heat in the form of UV
radiation.
That is the part that BLP got right wrt hydrogen, and
http://www.steorn.com/
The al-Jazeera ad is there under the Watch the advert button.
And Sean describes the technology, sort of, (absolutely no critical
details, and the bottom line is, trust us). Very slick.
They are claiming that the battery is merely an energy reservoir.
That the
Abd sez:
Mongo want to see a light bulb real soon.
No light bulb soon, Mongo send candygram to Sean.
Light bulb! Light bulb! Light bulb!
Steorn response simple: light bulb. Lights up. What does that mean?
Mongo sez:
Abd not serious! Even Mongo KNOWS what Light bulb means!
[And then,
I deleted the Richard Feynman quote and the blog entry was sent
forward for censoring. It will be interesting to see if my one
sentence makes it through.
On Dec 19, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Using:
http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspicks/2009/12/opinion-scientific-
On 12/19/2009 05:53 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 04:46 PM 12/18/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
-- I think it's unlikely that they're cash positive right now, if we
leave cash flow from stock sales off the balance sheet. But, that
doesn't really matter much; with repeated rounds of
Mongo is right.
harry
- Original Message
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 7:10:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Steorn Demo
Abd sez:
Mongo want to see a light bulb real soon.
No light bulb
The error message is from the Captcha Turing test. I ran into that
too. I may have used the back button? I'm not sure.
At 07:17 PM 12/19/2009, you wrote:
I deleted the Richard Feynman quote and the blog entry was sent
forward for censoring. It will be interesting to see if my one
sentence
At 10:56 PM 12/19/2009, you wrote:
A Ponzi scheme is specifically a scheme for allowing *investors* to
make money even though the company has no source of income. It's
the lure of assured high return on the money which pulls in the
investors. In particular, investors who pull out before a
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