Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
I guess you are being ultra left here. The guy is showing will to learn and you are kind of snubbing him. 2017-10-13 3:29 GMT-03:00 Che : > > > This is just (yawn) one more fake 'post-marxist' analysis (of which there > has been plenty: 'Post Modernism' being the

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread H LV
If you want to change society you have to work with people as they are, not as you wish they were. Harry On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:25 AM, H LV wrote: > Pure Marxism is a materialist religion and not a science. > > harry > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:01 AM, H LV

[Vo]:measuring a piece of paper

2017-10-13 Thread H LV
Secrets to measuring a piece of paper - Numberphile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yUZTTLpDtk

RE: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Chris Zell
My background is libertarian but I now feel some form of communism could be in our future, by default. First, consider that deflationary factors could drive economies into permanent stimulus with scant regard for debts. Even Bloomberg admits that the Bank of Japan may own a big chunk of their

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Che
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I guess you are being ultra left here. The guy is showing will to learn > and you are kind of snubbing him. > No, that's just what people 'improving' marxism -- i.e. reformist radicals (an oxymoron, no?) -- invariably

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Che
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Chris Zell wrote: > My background is libertarian but I now feel some form of communism could > be in our future, by default. > > > > First, consider that deflationary factors could drive economies into > permanent stimulus with scant regard

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: I am aware of these tidbits. But,Language is mechanical and have universal > rules that are quite strict.If you feed it with massive quantities of data, > it will eventually get it right . . . > I disagree. Google was not making much progress with that

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Che
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > The point it is that, as far as I can notice here, there is no such > notion. You are telling them stuff without explaining what you mean. You > seem to be a lunatic or a fanatic for them. > What reformists and the

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
Jed, I did not say that something is narrow, only. I said that there is an accumulation of narrow techniques that accumulate. We, humans, along many animals, do have many of these mechanisms of patter recognition, such as overall syntax, face identification, sexual orientation, some sense of

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread H LV
Yawn. Harry On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Che wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:35 PM, H LV wrote: > >> ​The Precariat and Class Struggle By Guy Standing >> >> Abstract: The world economy is in the midst of a Global Transformation >>

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread H LV
Pure Marxism is a materialist religion and not a science. harry On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:01 AM, H LV wrote: > Yawn. > > Harry > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Che wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:35 PM, H LV

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
I am aware of these tidbits. But,Language is mechanical and have universal rules that are quite strict.If you feed it with massive quantities of data, it will eventually get it right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example-based_machine_translation . It can be seen here an example:

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: > There isn't,though, any meaningful advance in AI for decades. What happens > is the massive feed of data for very repetitive tasks in a very narrow > field of expertise. > Your information is out of date. It is true there was little progress for

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Che
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 12:03 PM, H LV wrote: > If you want to change society you have to work with people as they are, > not as you wish they were. > > > Harry > Says a man who's clearly never been in any leadership position of any kind; let alone who understands the way

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Che
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > it seems some histocical perspective is required to understand all is > normal. > > Inflation is a recent phénomenon, and for example 19th century was veru > deflationist. > What are you talking about. Inflation was

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Che
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:25 AM, H LV wrote: > Pure Marxism is a materialist religion and not a science. > > harry > It never ceases to amaze me how (otherwise fairly intelligent) people can maintain these long-term internal states of cognitive dissonance. The wunnerful

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
Neither AI nor robots are a problem at all, the trouble is the transition. As the transition happens, people are not happily lose their jobs neither owners of large business will be able to sustain profits, this is unsolvable contradiction (that is, not solvable without violence). Unlike other

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
The point it is that, as far as I can notice here, there is no such notion. You are telling them stuff without explaining what you mean. You seem to be a lunatic or a fanatic for them. You are talking about a game they don't know, you don't explain the rules at all, that is, how you reached such

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
it seems some histocical perspective is required to understand all is normal. Inflation is a recent phénomenon, and for example 19th century was veru deflationist. in fact it is not so important as purchase power get better because of cost reduction. This si what sharing economy, in fact the

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Che
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:35 PM, H LV wrote: > ​The Precariat and Class Struggle By Guy Standing > > Abstract: The world economy is in the midst of a Global Transformation > that is producing a new global class structure. A new mass class is > emerging – the precariat –

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

2017-10-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
Things are not so simple, as I see it. I don't see the actual China as socialist or communist, nor I see them returning to a socialist path. This will become clear later, though this is a very very rough explanation. Things do not really get cheap because they are more abundantly produced (now I