Re: [Vo]:Podcast of interest

2018-01-26 Thread Philippe Hatt
Dear Andrew, Thank you for contacting me again and thank you to Bob Cook for having helped. As I told you I think that there are a lot of convergences in our thinking .I appreciate your point of view seeking for new ways on basis of pertinent knowledges which are not challenged by the

RE: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread Russ
In the world aptly described where, science progresses funeral by funeral, this was an observation about the naysayers, not the innovators. The rare innovator and their innovations are lost funeral by funeral and there is no tally of the numbers and importance of the losses inflicted upon this

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
For me the most shocking case is about Semmelweis and before him Alexander Gordon de Aberdeen. http://www.antimicrobe.org/h04c.files/history/Lancet%20ID-Alexander%20Gordon%20puerperal%20sepsis%20and%20modern%20theories%20of%20infection%20control%20Semmelweis%20in%20perspective.pdf The most

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread Brian Ahern
I would like to put some perspective on the Mel Miles presentation. 1.No radiation accompanied the He-4 2. The excess energy was about 100 milliwattsWatts for several hours 3. The background He-4 was ~ 5pm 4. The measured He-4 was only 5 ppB ! 5. The diffusion rates of He-4 through the walls

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Brian Ahern wrote: > > 1.No radiation accompanied the He-4 > Yes, that is true of all cold fusion experiments. If there were radiation, it would not be cold fusion. > 2. The excess energy was about 100 milliwattsWatts for several hours > The peak was around 500 mW.

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: 3. The background He-4 was ~ 5pm >> > > Yes. That is actually a strength. It is so low that anything like a leak > would be far above the amounts Miles measured. > > > >> 4. The measured He-4 was only 5 ppB ! >> > > As I said, a leak would be hundreds of times higher. > A leak would

RE: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread JonesBeene
From: Brian Ahern > I would like to put some perspective on the Mel Miles presentation. 1. No radiation accompanied the He-4… [snip]… A simpler explanation is that the excess energy was that described by Gerald Pollack in: The fourth phase of water. That avoids the need to explain the lack of

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread H LV
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Brian Ahern wrote: > >> > >> >> > > 3. The background He-4 was ~ 5pm >> > > Yes. That is actually a strength. It is so low that anything like a leak > would be far above the amounts Miles

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread H LV
I mean what was the concentration of He-4 in the vessel before the start of the experiment? Harry On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:42 PM, H LV wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: > >> Brian Ahern

[Vo]:France shutting down last coal and oil generators by 2021

2018-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: https://www.hubs.com/explore/ec/F3017B1A-81EE-4533-9B8D-12641E08B65D Only 7.5% of electricity in France comes from fossil fuel, so this is not so difficult for them: https://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/france-germany-turn-coal/ I expect they can install enough solar and wind

Re: [Vo]:Podcast of interest

2018-01-26 Thread mixent
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Fri, 26 Jan 2018 21:26:18 +: Hi, [snip] >Robin— > >This is the first time I have heard that Mills (or anyone else) thinks mass >changed into energy causes the Universe’s expansion. In General Relativity >it would be like changing the

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
Bob Thanks for agreeing. I also think there is conflict between what bureaucrats want and what experimenters want. Experimenters want to do an experiment and get new results and then have the theory changed. But  bureaucrats want is to keep things the same and not change things; i.e. they

RE: [Vo]:Podcast of interest

2018-01-26 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Robin— This is the first time I have heard that Mills (or anyone else) thinks mass changed into energy causes the Universe’s expansion. In General Relativity it would be like changing the space from a positive curvature to a negative curvature (I think) at all points—that would explain the

Re: [Vo]:Podcast of interest

2018-01-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Dave Roberson's message of Thu, 25 Jan 2018 16:20:29 -0500: Hi David, [snip] >Robin, > >I guess I do not understand how many far away objects would get information >about the conversion that takes place. ...through a lessening of the gravitational field of the Universe? (probably

Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
H LV wrote: I mean what was the concentration of He-4 in the vessel before the start of > the experiment? > Let me recommend you read the reviews and then the original sources by Miles for that info. - Jed