RE: [Vo]:Another contenda? - Cold fusion: Is Burnaby lab on brink of clean nuclear energy?

2011-06-27 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:23 AM 4/22/2011, Jones Beene wrote: Well Steven, did Laberge's multimillion dollar Vancouver digital imaging technology company also go under the next year? Probably. Can one idea be energy's holy grail? http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovation/06/27/fusion/index.html (CNN) -- Michel

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion-the Economist Magazine + CNET ??

2011-06-29 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:09 AM 6/29/2011, Ron Kita wrote: Cold Fusion LENR : I was amazed to find this link: http://www.economist.com/node/18774834/comments Also made it to http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-20075206-54/a-reality-check-on-nuclear-fusion-at-mit/#comments Not noted by the original author, though.

Re: [Vo]:Comment from Defkalion forum -- miscellaneous stuff

2011-07-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
[ This message is delayed from yesterday's prison foo ] The defkalion search is working pretty well for me. http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/search.php?keywords=terms=allauthor=Defkalion+GT A couple of goodies : Re: Who are we communicating with @ Defkalion GT

RE: [Vo]:Comment from Defkalion forum -- miscellaneous stuff

2011-07-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:54 PM 7/7/2011, Mark Iverson wrote: Nikola Tesla... Ahhh .

Re: [Vo]:Perfect simulation of e-cat with 1200W, for Lewan's video.

2011-07-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:48 PM 7/7/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: There's a Test 3 I haven't watched yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17ser9_tGiU Oops -- that's a different one -- Mr Powerpuff. But it DOES show how water collects in the hose.

Re: [Vo]:Perfect simulation of e-cat with 1200W, for Lewan's video.

2011-07-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
[ Delayed by jail-house-mail -- should be BEFORE my comment on test3 ] At 11:16 AM 7/7/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: Take a look at this video, simulating steam production at 1200W with a 4m long hose: . What do you think? Not enough controls. But THIS guy's interesting TinselKoala

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion comments on the role of the electric heater

2011-07-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:18 PM 7/7/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: This sounds like the heater is used only to bring the cell up to the operating temperature to trigger the reaction. I think they said the method of regulating the reaction is to vary gas pressure, rather than Rossi's method of changing the auxiliary

[Vo]:Defkalion Forum closed .. until further notice

2011-07-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Due to an overload in traffic and a bottleneck in moderating discussions, Defkalion Green Technologies has decided to temporarily freeze this Forum’s operation until further notice. All comments have been welcomed. We thank you all for your participation. For those with an interest to

Re: [Vo]:Purdue paper Bose-Einstein Condensation Nuclear Fusion

2011-07-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:27 AM 7/8/2011, Roarty, Francis X wrote: http://www.physics.purdue.edu/people/faculty/yekim/BECNF-Ni-Hydrogen.pdf This sounds familiar to posits by Jones Beene. I’m not convinced it rules out initial ZPE Contributions but it sounds credible for explaining the nuclear paths. Regards

[Vo]:A poll : is the eCat steam quality a problem?

2011-07-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I've set up a survey at http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22CPD9867MH/ Results can (I hope) be seen at: http://www.zoomerang.com/Shared/SharedResultsPasswordPage.aspx?ID=L26QG6QVBZQL

[Vo]:More from Rossi -- Heat transfer,Self-sustaining eCAT

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Malcolm July 12th, 2011 at 5:02 AM Thank you for your detailed reply to Dr. Mario Voltaggio. You mention that the heating effect is due to gamma absorption by the lead. I assume from this that the lead shielding is in fact in direct contact with the copper water jacket and so the water is

Re: [Vo]:More from Rossi -- Heat transfer,Self-sustaining eCAT

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:11 AM 7/12/2011, Axil Axil wrote: Dear Malcom, Yes, also. Warm Regards, A.R. Yes also means that both the reaction vessel and the lead shield both generated heat, IMHO. the proportions are as follows: reaction vessel = a lot Lead shied = a little. Oops .. I goofed on summarizing

Re: [Vo]:First Photo of Mass-Produced e-Cats?

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:58 AM 7/12/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: There's an audio interview with AR on the right column. He's at home in Miami. No hard questions. (Don't mention the Steam quality!) ... the only clarification I got was that the original factory heating eCat was no longer in operation. That

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:01 PM 7/12/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, This is straight from New Energy Times. Puzzling news, to say the least: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/07/12/uppsala-university-denies-rossi-research-agreement/ Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:49 PM 7/12/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: My wife got this email from AR: Dear Marcia, I never said that we have a contract with the University of Uppsala. Professors of the University of Uppsala made test with our apparatus, but without a contract. It has been a free, indipendent test. We are

Re: [Vo]:A poll : is the eCat steam quality a problem?

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Thanks for all your responses. I've closed it, but the results are still available http://www.zoomerang.com/Shared/SharedResultsPasswordPage.aspx?ID=L26QG6QVBZQL Pretty bimodal : Definitely a problem 33 41% Probably a problem 7 9% Don't know/ don't care 7 9% Probably not a problem 24 30%

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Also : Andrea Rossi June 17th, 2011 at 3:10 PM Dear Maryyugo: We have already made enough public tests ... About the work that we will make with the University of Bologna and Uppsala, this will not be a public demo, but a work of Research and Development, made closed doors. Warm Regards,

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Krivit has modified his statement : Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and Hanno Essén, with the Royal Institute of Technology, endorsed Rossi’s claimed technology in a news story on Feb. 23, 2011, before they had seen or inspected the device *** on March 29. *** But he

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement Krivit/Rossi page

2011-07-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
With the stop/go mailing, I'm not sure if this is old news : Krivit has added a link from his main blog page to http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/AndreaRossiAndHisEnergy-Catalyzer.shtml (Latest entry July 5) where he seems to be collecting all the Rossi-specific stuff.

[Vo]:EV World / Rossi Interview Transcript

2011-07-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://pesn.com/2011/07/14/9501869_EV-World_Interviews_Andrea_Rossi/

Re: [Vo]:Levi's likely attitude

2011-07-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:42 AM 7/15/2011, Harry Veeder wrote: Since only Rossi and Levi were present at the 18 hr test, it is possible that Rossi fooled Levi by tampering with the instruments prior to the tests. Krivit gave us an observer list at http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/RossiECatPortal.shtml

Re: [Vo]:New Sergio Focardi interview

2011-07-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:21 PM 7/15/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: A new interview to Sergio Focardi has been posted on Passerini's blog here: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/07/intervista-di-focardi-energylab.html Google translated short link: http://goo.gl/nxcMG It contains some interesting bits of information. I

[Vo]:Rossi on NASA

2011-07-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Martin July 14th, 2011 at 1:57 PM Dear mr Rossi, Today there was a meeting with NASA about your invention. Is it possible to give some information about this meeting? If it is not possible no problem! Im just very curious. Best regards Martin Andrea Rossi July 15th, 2011 at 7:24 AM Dear

[Vo]:Minor Stream Media -- at least it's in print (UK)

2011-07-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Cold Fusion, Warm Future. A New Day Dawning? http://www.thesussexnewspaper.com/columnists/3061-cold-fusion-warm-future-a-new-day-dawning.html You may be happy to learn that while lunatics have been busy knocking seven bells out of foreign countries so as to purloin oil, which is soon going to

Re: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:56 AM 7/18/2011, Damon Craig wrote: Yeap. This is what I expect transpire:- A 1 MW unit will be qualified in the very same way the individual devices have been qualified: volumetric input of liquid water will be compared to electric power input. It should be a marketing success. Andrea

Re: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:02 AM 7/18/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: [ I thought that Defkalion said they were taking orders for small Hyperions in November. ] Their products page says http://www.defkalion-energy.com/products The 1MW Hyperion will be inaugurated in Q4 of 2011 with its production phase to commence

Re: [Vo]:MIT Colloquium Report

2011-07-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:28 PM 7/24/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: The 2011 Cold Fusion/Lattice-Assisted Nuclear Reactions Colloquium at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology — Part I http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/LANR2011Colloq.pdf Is it just me ... or is there an Elephant in the room?

Re: [Vo]:MIT Colloquium Report

2011-07-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:20 AM 7/25/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo I counted 11 passes ... but .. umm ... NO !

Re: [Vo]: Gyroscope's unexplained acceleration may be due to modified inertia...

2011-07-27 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:55 PM 7/26/2011, Mark Iverson wrote: Fran and Jones... This also may involve Casimir effects, but on a Hubble scale... Haven't heard of that before! http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-gyroscope-unexplained-due-inertia.html McCulloch proposes that the gyroscope's inertial mass is

Re: [Vo]:bell soon to toll for Rossi debacle, Steven B. Krivit definitive technical review, with able collaborators, due in a few days: Rich Murray 2011.07.29

2011-07-29 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:36 AM 7/29/2011, Rich Murray wrote: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/07/29/new-energy-times-report-3-on-rossi-device-coming-soon/ Careful observers have noticed that Rossi is not claiming a 1 megawatt electrical device but a 1 megawatt thermal device. They have also noticed that

[Vo]:Brian Josephson question and invitation

2011-07-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Brian Josephson July 30th, 2011 at 4:17 AM October demo Andrea, You’ve said the 1MW E-cat due in October will be the real test, but in what way will it be more convincing than the ones done so far? Will it be done in such a way that people are sure about the amount of water/steam coming out

[Vo]:Thermal losses through insulator

2011-07-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Marcia Pires July 30th, 2011 at 11:24 AM Dear Andrea Rossi, How much heat of the reactor is absorbed by the water and how much is absorbed by the solid parts of the e-cat? Best wishes, Marcia Pires Andrea Rossi July 30th, 2011 at 11:52 AM Dear Marcia Pires: The reactor is very well

[Vo]:1MW re-worked !!!! Ampenergo contract?

2011-07-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi July 29th, 2011 at 4:59 PM Dear Lars: . The progression of my work, that as you know is focused on the manufacturing of the 1 MW plant, is very good and we are perfectly in time for the scheduled delivery in October. You bet. If some skeptic will tell you that for some reason

[Vo]:More from Rossi : Hi-T Steam, Cooling, Warranty

2011-08-01 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi July 31st, 2011 at 5:36 PM Dear Rick Gresham: We can reach 500 Celsius, but in a very instable mode. The lower is the T, the higher the stability. At the moment, to turn off the input power, we must make steam at 100.1-101 Celsius; above this limit we need the drive, we are able

Re: [Vo]:Fw: Krivit Snarks

2011-08-01 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I've read the whole thing a couple of times, and been through the appendices once. I'm still struck by Krivit's overall snarkiness -- and also he's ignoring recent Rossi claims. I'm not commenting on ANY of the steam-quality issues. Last year Rossi and Focardi claimed an energy gain of 213

[Vo]:Rossi's Blue-Box controller

2011-08-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
From http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/07/31/new-energy-times-publishes-report-3-on-rossi-device-2/ A reader sent in specs for Rossi's off the shelf controller module http://www.gsei.it/attachs/P020_01.pdf VL676 FEEDER WITH RELAY 'STATIC PHASE 10A - 20A 230/400Vac TWO PROGRAMMABLE

[Vo]:Swedish man caught trying to split atoms at home

2011-08-03 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Swedish man caught trying to split atoms at home http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/08/03/international/i08D22.DTL#ixzz1U05lkxzV A Swedish man who was arrested after trying to split atoms in his kitchen said Wednesday he was only doing it as a hobby. Richard Handl told

[Vo]:Time for a new poll?

2011-08-04 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I previously asked whether steam is a problem : http://www.zoomerang.com/Shared/SharedResultsPasswordPage.aspx?ID=L26QG6QVBZQL http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg49076.html I'm thinking of setting up a new poll. a) Old question, again : Is the eCat steam quality a problem?

Re: [Vo]:Time for a new poll?

2011-08-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:27 AM 8/5/2011, Mattia Rizzi wrote: Do you now think the eCat is Real or Fake? Definetly a scientific scam WHOA This isn't the actual poll . coming up REAL SOON !!!

Re: [Vo]: NEW POLL LINK IS HERE

2011-08-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:37 AM 8/5/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: WHOA This isn't the actual poll . coming up REAL SOON !!! http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22CU6CZ3P9U/ results will be at: http://www.zoomerang.com/Shared/SharedResultsPasswordPage.aspx?ID=L26VBL22QQQG

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

2011-08-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:27 PM 8/5/2011, Jones Beene wrote: Hold the presses. I can't load that. Is there a link to it somewhere?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

2011-08-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:18 PM 8/5/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I can't load that. Is there a link to it somewhere? I meant the winmail.dat attachment ... but that seems to be attached to all your posts. I thought it contained the scoop on your hold the presses.

[Vo]:1MW eCat Generator Module?

2011-08-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuHJBIMj_rsNR=1 Is that steam quality OK ?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi-Bologna contract

2011-08-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:03 PM 8/5/2011, Enzo wrote: For the announcement of the University of Bologna take a look here: http://www.df.unibo.it/bacheca/bacheca.htm Google translate of PDF file : Notice (google says Warning) Bologna 29 June 2011 The Department of Physics of the Alma Mater Studiorum -

[Vo]:Steam Separator and related stuff

2011-08-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Here's an interesting device, for 'thought' or possible real experiments http://www.spiraxsarco.com/pdfs/TI/p023_59.pdf Given low-quality steam (steam mixed with water and air) this device separates it into dry steam, air and water. For the ecat, there will be little or no air after it's run

Re: [Vo]: POLL CLOSED -- thanks

2011-08-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:46 AM 8/5/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: results will be at: http://www.zoomerang.com/Shared/SharedResultsPasswordPage.aspx?ID=L26VBL22QQQG I closed the poll -- in part because any future replies would be heavily skewed by the Rossi/Defkalion news. The fake/real spilt wasn't quite

RE: [Vo]:What the Breakup Means : more Rossi posts

2011-08-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Rossi's been making frequent posts -- one of his latest: Andrea Rossi August 7th, 2011 at 2:22 PM Dear Georgehants: Prof. Stremmenos has tested our E-Cats many times in Bologna and has made a very good work; I do not know what has been done in Greece from Deflalion with the documents made by

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

2011-08-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:37 AM 8/8/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: One or the other has to be lying. PESN agrees with me. See: http://pesn.com/2011/08/07/9501887_An_E-Cat_Full_of_Lies_-_Rossi_or_Defkalion/ This is a good summary of Rossi versus Defkalion claims, and Defkalion's statements about testing in the

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over? Rossi - Defkalion ran out of money?

2011-08-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi August 8th, 2011 at 1:38 PM Dear Alessandro Casali: I repeat that the reason of the split from Defkalion has been only and exclusively financial. As for all the other issue: as all our Readers know, I always said that we would have been ready for the market from November only

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over? Rossi - Defkalion ran out of money?

2011-08-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:01 PM 8/8/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Andrea Rossi August 8th, 2011 at 1:38 PM the only problem has been that they were delaying from months their financial duties, until it has not been possible to go ahead. Of course, since they have not respected what due, Which contradicts

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

2011-08-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Q1) Is your new customer going to produce e-cats under licence or is it just going to buy e-cats from you? (ajf: Presumably US customer) 1- Buy from Leonardo Corporation Q2) When do you think will the RD with Bologna University start? before or after the 1MW plant? 2- We didn't

Re: [Vo]:who is the secret big partner of Rossi in USA?

2011-08-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:26 AM 8/10/2011, Michael Ivanov wrote: BTW - what about Ampenergo who supposed to be a sole distributor in US? No -- they're the middle-man. It was always said that they would license others.

[Vo]:Another Defkalion statement on PESN

2011-08-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/ Sorry if it's already here ... I looked for it. Hard to well if it's actually conflicting with what Rossi as said (technically). They say it's built AROUND the core (not that they have one), AND that they have (are?)

Re: [Vo]:Another Defkalion statement on PESN

2011-08-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:05 AM 8/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/ Andrea Rossi August 10th, 2011 at 4:02 AM Dear Luke Mortensen: No one in the world holds any E-Cat, but us, so far. Warm Regards, A.R. Hard to well if it's actually

RE: [Vo]:NASA Researchers Put New Spin on Einstein\'s Relativity Theory

2011-08-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:30 PM 8/10/2011, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: That's exactly what Larson's Reciprocal System unified theory says: particles are in contact if they are either adjacent in 3D space or 3D time. Space/Time? That's SO last-millenium! Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space

Re: [Vo]:Another Defkalion statement on PESN

2011-08-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:46 PM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher wrote: Rossi could have hand-carried a core to Defkalion, run tests, and then taken it way with him. No regulator or government agency in the EU, the U.S. or Japan would allow that. It is unthinkable. These organizations have many

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion clearly states that Rossi showed them how to make the powder

2011-08-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:13 PM 8/11/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: Doesn't mean they don't know the sauce. I'm with Terry on this one. They've could just have designed the correct hoppers, feeds, mixers etc etc to add the sauce, They can do this from a technical specification without knowing the secret. If and

[Vo]:JNP Cold Nuclear Fusion paper

2011-08-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi August 12th, 2011 at 10:58 AM TO ALL OUR READERS: TODAY HAS BEEN PUBLISHED ON THE JOURNAL OF NUCLEAR PHYSICS THE VERY INTERESTING PAPER “COLD NUCLEAR FUSION” OF E.N. TSYGANOV, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SOUTHWESTERN, TEXAS, USA. http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510

Re: [Vo]:USA Partner + 1MW Test

2011-08-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:26 PM 8/13/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: JCCoLDS? Well they certainly have the money. And the distribution channel. Next time the young missionaries knock on your door, they might say, We just came here to share our point of view and sell you a Hyperion at our cost if you just give us a few

[Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_steam_v410A.php (Working Draft) Comments and corrections appreciated -- either through vortex or directly AbstractThe issue of Steam Quality greatly impacts the calculations on the actual excess energy. This issue is extensively analyzed by Steven B. Krivit

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:05 AM 8/17/2011, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I'll answer your points in detail later. As I said, it's a work in progress. But I specifically indicate that the dryout is the point at which there is no liquid water on the tube wall. There IS still liquid water in the form of droplets in

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:18 AM 8/17/2011, you wrote: I have some corrections though. In one of the appendices, I have to find where, the loss in a 4m hose is about 400W. Rossi said that the ecat wastes 100W within the bulk of the device. So, the actual output is 3/4*(4900-500)= 3300W. I suppose there are also

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:11 PM 8/17/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: BTW, I think Krivit won't accept anything you write. He wants just negative opinions about Rossi. Maybe not but Rossi might !! (and I have another publication channel).

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:26 PM 8/17/2011, Joe Catania wrote: How do you explain the low velocity of steam at exit of E-Cat? This surely damns 75% dryness? I'm not convinced that has been proved. Please post a link which covers Kettle Tube boilers and Dryout . Kettle isn't very relevant to the eCat. Follow the

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
A new version is up : http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_steam_v410B.php I've rewritten it distinguishing FLUID from LIQUID, and replaced Watts by W. And I found a new diagram for the Drypout, which is explicitly scaled to the flow pattern diagram:

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:43 PM 8/17/2011, you wrote: At 02:36 PM 8/17/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 11:05 AM 8/17/2011, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I'll answer your points in detail later. As I said, it's a work in progress. But I specifically indicate that the dryout is the point at which there is no liquid

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:11 PM 8/17/2011, Joe Catania wrote: The NASA calculations seem to have no validity. It dosen't seem possible to pin down the quality. There is not enough information to do so. That's my whole point. There IS enough information. In fact, the temperatures and pressure don't matter. The

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:09 PM 8/17/2011, Joe Catania wrote: I don't think so. The quality can be anything from 0 to 1 but it is likely to be very wet. There is no diagram that can tell you the quality as is insinuated in the Nasa article. Chimney overflowing with what? Overflowing with fluid, liquid water.

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:41 PM 8/17/2011, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I'll take on your bet that a 5% Dry fully-atomized stream is possible. One pint of beer/glass of wine ? I don't drink alcohol. Read the name. My apologies. Equivalent value, then ... say $5. Means of delivery to be determined.

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:41 PM 8/17/2011, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: That's 11 litres or 3 Gallons. I think he'd have noticed that. Lewan found about half the water ended up in the bucket. He noticed it, in other words, he measured it. Unfortunately, he did not examine it closely enough. It would have been far

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 08:08 PM 8/17/2011, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Your figure of 75% you seem to have made up. You wrote: No, I read it off this chart by Steiner-Taborek : http://lenr.qumbu.com/steampics/110816_steam_0014.png I have presented ample evidence that dryout occurs, that it correlates with steam

Re: [Vo]:Answering Krivit #3: eCat steam quality must be above 75% (above 4300 Watts)

2011-08-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I've put up a new version at http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_steam_v410C.php Scroll down to 11 Work in Progress -- where I review some stuff on flow diagrams. Unfortunately the calculations needed to derive the drypoint (and other stages) are beyond my capability and resources. However, I

[Vo]:Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I've been having some off-vortex action with this. Latest version is at http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_steam_v410E.php My attention was drawn to an excellent Rossi eCat simulator by a Rick Cantwell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXTl8z_2Uqo (It's main deficiency is that he's measuring

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:43 AM 8/23/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: Some consolidated and clarified text follows. ... I'm heading out for a couple of days, so I don't have time to check your method or numbers (assuming a 94 °C boiling point) of: Isn't that a bit low? You still need to take into account the fact that

Re: [Vo]:Lomax argument that detailed data is required to confirm unknown phenomena

2011-08-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:48 AM 8/25/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: No one has raised a valid objections to the flowing water test as far as I know. Your objection seem to be that you want to see the number 5°C repeated a thousand times. Go ahead and use a word processor to repeat it yourself: 5°C 5°C 5°C 5°C 5°C 5°C

[Vo]:Steam : Temperature-Enthalpy Diagrammer

2011-08-29 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I've been working on a javascript program for generating Temperature-Enthalpy Diagrams. http://lenr.qumbu.com/jsxgraph_h.php Following NASA's diagram in Krivit's Appendix 9 the Enthalpy is scaled to kWh, for the given input flow. I've set it up so that I can draw a path on the diagram --

Re: [Vo]:Levi interview Part 3 is available at a new URL

2011-08-31 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:57 AM 8/31/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:The URLs for all interviews are listed here: http://rossiportal.com/ - Jed Sources that Support the Rossi Claim? http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/08/26/sources-that-support-the-rossi-claim/ A few days ago he was soliciting information on sites

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-01 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:01 AM 9/1/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: This post is just to check my understanding of the supposed structure of the Rossi device. I think that this (speculative!) diagram best shows the location of the heating resistors. http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/37/3724appendixc8.shtml

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Enzo September 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 AM Dear Dr. Rossi, good luck for tomorrow Andrea Rossi September 2nd, 2011 at 3:10 AM Dear Enzo: I always am delighted of good luck wishes, but…what happens tomorrow of special? Warm Regards, A.R.

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:57 PM 9/1/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: The total power of resisters (in your drawing) at 300 W + 300 W = 600 W seems low. Rossi states in Krivit's film he is using 748 watts, from which I did the following computations: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/KrivitFilm.pdf In another demo the

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:04 PM 9/2/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: So we have either 9+3 : 9/9 * 300W + 3/9 * R2 = (770W - 65W) giving R2 = 1215W and maximum power at 9+9 is 1515W 3+9 : 3/9 * 300W + 9/9 * R2 = (770W - 65W) giving R2 = 605W and maximum power at 9+9 is 905W If we could trace the cables then we could

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:54 PM 9/2/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: That was just a first-order calculation. I presumed the maximum wattages are for the same input voltages. You can do the whole V=IR foo if you want to, but you don't know the voltages applied to the resistors or the resistor values themselves

[Vo]:Rossi quotes

2011-09-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Jason Le Leivre September 8th, 2011 at 6:17 AM In the past you have indicated that your Ni fuel charge is prepared by a single elderly gentleman in his 90 s. Has he been responsible for the fuel for all 300 reactors in your 1MW device or do you have a new preparation system better suited to

[Vo]:eCat Steam Calculator

2011-09-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I finally got round to finishing my ecat steam calculator, and entered all of the steam experiments. http://lenr.qumbu.com/steam_calc.php See the Help file for details. I have most of the important steam parameters available, so I could easily add other calculations -- eg I could calculate

Re: [Vo]:Grimshaw paper

2011-09-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:21 PM 9/9/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Grimshaw, T., Evidence-Based Public Policy toward Cold Fusion: Rational Choices for a Potential Alternative Energy Source. 2008, The University of Texas at Austin. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GrimshawTevidenceba.pdf A good read ... but doubt that any

Re: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik

2011-09-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:00 AM 9/14/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: These test results are indeed difficult to explain. And (regrettably) incomplete. We know that the power to the resistor was being cycled on and off, but not the actual duty ratio! Water came out -- but we don't know its temperature. I have one

Re: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik

2011-09-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:52 AM 9/14/2011, Rich Murray wrote: Richard M. Any relation, I wonder? September 14th, 2011 at 3:33 AM Dear Mr. Andrea Rossi, If you could spare a bit of time, I have a few questions. 1)Could you please inform us as to the reactor core volume of the new E-Cat modules?

RE: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik

2011-09-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:55 PM 9/14/2011, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: We know that the ‘Setting’ is referring to the duty cycle, but we do not know exactly what the relationship is… since 9 is the MAXimum setting, and Lewan states ‘power was at this point constantly switched on’, then a setting of ‘9’ is

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat Volume

2011-09-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 08:25 AM 9/15/2011, Joe Catania wrote: There would appear to be from 17 to 20L of water stored in the E-Cat. Rossi said the reactor volume is 30L -- but this includes space for water and for steam. Taking the time from when the pump was started to when overflow started -- 1.77 hrs x The

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

2011-09-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:45 AM 9/15/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: WTH?!?! http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/09/15/collected-comments-on-sept-7-afternoon-rossi-test/ Krivit posted an Horace's post without the context, that is, Jouni's post and answer to that! It looks like Krivit is trying to smear someone he

Re: [Vo]:Simply using the facts on Rossis new e-cat and nothing else

2011-09-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:19 AM 9/15/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: So we know all input conditions and we know all output condition and therefore we can calculate the energy. I've coded up the data -- http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_sep11_a.php -- displayed both as a table and as CSV data which you can load into

Re: [Vo]:Simply using the facts on Rossis new e-cat and nothing else

2011-09-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:21 PM 9/15/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 11:19 AM 9/15/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: So we know all input conditions and we know all output condition and therefore we can calculate the energy. I've coded up the data -- http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_sep11_a.php -- displayed both

[Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I'm still trying to figure out what's going on! The outlet port is very high on the unit ... if it was just the overflow from a kettle boiler then there wouldn't be any room for steam. I might have to go back to thinking of it as a Tube boiler, where the flow of the steam carries the water with

RE: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik

2011-09-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:34 AM 9/16/2011, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: From: Jones Beene [ mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Hey guys - isn't Rossi-mania already reading like a geek gossip column? You mean a greek geek gossip column! For Defkalion, it's a piqued greek geek gossip column!

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:24 AM 9/16/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Thanks for your comments I'm still looking at the whole picture. This is also the reason, why I do not believe that two chambered inner structure. We do not have any evidence that would support the idea of superheated steam and also I do not

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:57 AM 9/16/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: The important information is: There is no superheated steam because inside the ecat is everything almost at boiling temperature. For superheated steam you need an extra heater that heats the steam and there is none. Because the temperature inside

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:45 AM 9/16/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Still I find it baffling why there was no bump in the graph, when power was cut off? Do you Alan or anyone else have any ideas? There isn't a bump in the graph when it's heating up, either. Previously we've seen a distinct increase in the slope

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam : Pressure drop

2011-09-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:26 PM 9/16/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: To maintain an internal pressure of 3 Bar (needed for 130C) you'd need a pretty small orifice : less than 1/32 inch ?. http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/steam-flow-orifices-d_1158.html (Unfortunately, that's in engineering units .. I'll look

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam : Pressure drop

2011-09-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:13 PM 9/16/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I'm still looking for the 'orifice' needed to create 3 Bar internal pressure. Napier's formula (accurate to about 3%) for steam going through an orifice in a flat plate, to atmospheric pressure. W = p * a / 70 Where W is flow lbs/sec p

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:26 PM 9/16/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I still think that the 2-chamber design explains more than the 1-chamber 3-bar design. The core could easily be engineered with a water-efficient heat exchanger in one chamber, and a steam-efficient heat exchanger in the other. From Lewan's report

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